Coppervape Drop Kits

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    A few photos to start. Showing the comparison.

    Quite a size difference.
    IMG_2591.jpg


    Comparison with similar drip tips. It is possible to mix and match the top parts.
    IMG_2592.jpg


    Right ............... Preferred drip tip
    IMG_2594.jpg


    On a Pico
    IMG_2595.jpg

    Pretty photo
    IMG_2602e_1.jpg

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    The black drip tip that comes with the drop kit does seem a bit short for me.
    The other 'bad' is not being able to use ones own drip tip.

    And the real 'bad bad' one has to have a skyline to be able to use the drop kit. Just not nice.

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    I see you replace the whole chimney part with a shorter one, does that not impact on flavor?

    Really looking good on those Pico's!

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    I'm sure it will. I haven't tried one yet. :cool:
    Still admiring them :cool: ................... I know :D

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    The flavour on the drop kits is improved. It's a wetter more dense flavour. Not huge but big enough to notice.
    My issue is the standard 4ml capacity is too small and you lose another ml with the drop kit.
     
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    Will do.

    I'll make a start tomorrow, two new coils and wick.

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    A quick comparison between the Coppervape Skyline and it's Drop kit.

    Two new factory coils Kanthal 26G rated at 1 Ohm 2.6 id.
    Two new wicks Cotton Bacon V2 tried to keep the wicking and cotton as close as possible.
    Using Scream at 6mg. I have used this juice for a long time now and I should be able to detect any flavour change.
    Vaping on a Pico at 13Watts

    Out of the box set up
    IMG_2610.jpg


    I don't like that black plastic drip tip not because it is plastic but because it is too short for me.
    Doesn't feel nice in my mouth.
    A certain amount of mix is possible. Keeping the mouth pieces the same keeps the testing fair.
    IMG_2613.jpg

    One could do this. :eek: Not for me.:)
    IMG_2614.jpg


    This is the set up I used, as currently used on the skylines
    IMG_2617.jpg

    From the assethics point of view, I much prefer the drop kit the shorter overall length makes it more appealing to me.:)
    The loss from the shorter length is the reduced juice capacity - a bit of a bad.

    The first thing I noticed vaping the drop kit compared to the skyline is the slightly warmer vape and a noticeable wetter vape.
    The vapour also feels denser in the mouth this may be from the increased wetness of the vape.
    In terms of actual flavour I didn't get a vast increase in flavour, however I did seem get "more" flavour maybe this comes from the warmer more dense vape.

    That's my first impressions, overall I like it, especially the denser vape.:)
    I will change 3 of my skylines to the drop kit keep one as a skyline and one spare.

    I will report back after a few days of vaping on my further thoughts.
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    The drop kit does look great on the brushed Pico!
     
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    I agree it does.:)
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    Great thread @DaveH. Thanks for taking the time :)

    I have a dropkit on hold. I'll complete the order as soon as I'm back from India.
    Looking forward to giving this one a try!

    And these pics are making me think I need to trade my Pico 25 for a Pico 22 :D
     
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    Those brushed silver Pico 22s are very scarce. Have been looking for one for some time now.
     
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    One thing I have just noticed after vaping on the skyline for a while and then on to the drop kit there was a slight but noticeable increase in the throat hit.

    IMG_2625t.jpg
    :)
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    A friend of mine has one. I think some arm twisting might be in order :)
     
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    The Drop Kit certainly looks awesome but in practical terms it's a dead loss. It's enough hassle filling my beloved Skylines without reducing the juice capacity and having to do it more often. Also the drip tips are too small for me and even trying the normal top on the drop kit doesn't really work for the authentics. Great for taking pictures of but now destined to the display cabinet! :confused:
     
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    Ah that's a shame.

    That drip tip is a disaster for me as well, they could have made some nice drip tips (as well as longer) - just needed a bit of thought.
    The reduced capacity is a bit of a bad for me as well.
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    I have another 'bad' for the drop kit ( I know I have a lot to say:cool:) why can't it be sold as a complete atty. Having to buy a Skyline and a Drop kit seems a bit harsh. It's not so bad money wise for the coppervape clones but for the authentic really quite expensive. Not sure what their thinking was behind this idea but I don't think it is a good idea.

    Even now I cannot see why they can't sell the base and the drop kit as a single unit.

    Quote from a TV advert many years ago: "Gee Brian I wish I was clever like you"
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    @DaveH I'm having some drip tips (longer ones) made by Brent from Viking for the Drop Kit... will let you know how they turn out when they arrive.
     
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    That's great ........... what a star you are @Rob Fisher :banana:
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    After 6 or 7 tank fills time to make another assessment. 7 tank fills sounds a lot ............. maybe it is but it is not a lot of juice.:cool:

    The vape is noticeable denser in the mouth and I am sure this is what gives the slight increase in flavour.

    My personal view is it isn't a step up in flavour there is a step up in vaping pleasure do to the denser vape and a noticeable increase in throat hit. Perhaps a more rounded flavour.

    I do like the vape from it and I prefer the vape from the drop kit more than from the Skyline.
    The overall size also appeals to me.

    I have taken some of the part(s) from the skyline namely the juice control, plus the mouth piece I like.

    IMG_2628t.jpg
    That came out a bit big.:eek:

    That juice control fits better with a smaller diameter o ring and the o ring on the black plastic juice control/ drip tip comes with a smaller o ring.:) ideal to swap. :)

    I'm going to set it up using my stock 1.1 Ohm coil plus another two drop kits.

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    I set up the current drop kit with the 1.1 ohm coil vaping at 12Watts what a pleasure I think it is going to be difficult improve on this vape for me.

    Started on a further two drop kits I first make sure the juice controls work then taken to bits warm wash in soapy water then a thorough rinse. All went fine changed the plastic tank for the glass ones and the juice control doesn't work smoothly.
    Oh bluudy heck, so now to find what is wrong. The sticking juice control is not what is wrong it is a symptom of the problem.
    Before one can find a solution it is important to know what the exact problem is.

    Changing this changing that .........a lot of measuring I am slowly eliminating what could be causing the sticking juice control I think.
    Then the dog comes in holding up her front left paw, she had ripped her dew claw out ............ now it is off to the vets.

    Back home and back to the drop kit.
    .............. To be continued.
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    Continued .............
    After a bit (no a lot) of two-in and froing changing the plastic for the glass and vice versa I though there must be something wrong with the glass tanks. However not all the glass tanks because two were fine and the juice control worked fine on all four of the drop kits.
    I have two glass tanks seemingly doesn't allow the juice control to operate in a smooth way. Now I just have to find what is wrong with them. I have previously measured the tank lengths of the plastic and glass ones. The glass tanks were (on average) a fraction of a mm longer than the plastic ones. I didn't feel the difference in length could possibly causing the juice control malfunction. There was a variation in length on the same tank not a great deal but slightly more than on the plastic tanks.
    Then the penny dropped ..................... :banana:I know what is wrong:)
    A slight unscrew of the base just a few degrees the problem solved on both glass tanks.

    This is the problem, a drawing of the glass tank showing what the problem could be.

    Screen Shot 02-16-18 at 07.17 PM.JPG

    The cut off of the glass tube to make the tank is not perpendicular to the axis of the glass tank. Bluudy clowns didn't cut it off square what a bunch of @#$% *^&^%%
    It could be A B or C ,,,,,,,,,,, I tend to go for C.

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    To be continued ...............
     
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    The dog's a lot better :)
    A few photos.
    Look at the top of the glass tank - a gap!
    IMG_2635.jpg


    Rotated the glass 90 deg no gap.
    IMG_2636.jpg

    Rotated another 90 deg it is now 180 deg from the first photo. The gap is at the bottom
    IMG_2637.jpg

    So ......... problem solved.
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    So Dave why did your first one come out OK (I hear you say) simple ....... just luck.
    Out of the four two are fine I just happened to pick one of those.

    On with the vaping.;)
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