Hi Guys Ive been doing some reading, and the Morpheus V2 recipe caught my attention. The description, of menthol, litchi, elderflower and mixed berries and a bit juicy. So the recipe attempt used elderberry, which id say is different from elderflower, as the elder flower is described as "It tastes light and floral. Elderflowers can be "floral and fragrant, subtle yet heady," the Independent describes. ... But not all elderflowers taste the same. The Guardian points out that "Black Beauty" elder shrubs, which produce champagne-pink flowers, have a "pronounced muscat grape-meets-lychee" flavor" ". So rather looking for a grape litchi profile. and I may attempt a version of this, not exactly a clone attempt, but perhaps the profile would be better met with some fresh cream for the litchi mouth feel, some grape, not sure which one, and cactus for the slight juiciness. That with mixed berries and ICE, not menthol , makes sense in my mind. for the jammy part, im not so sure, perhaps some advise? EDIT: "Elderberry jams and jellies has a sweet-tart taste with earthy undertones. ... Elderberries also add complexity and tannins to homemade wines. You can use elderberries in recipes with other fruits. The berries mix well with other fruits in pies and other desserts, adding color and depth of flavor." SO I found that elderberry may add the jammy bit, and with some other berries I suppose.