First vaper reported dead after mysterious lung disease

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    First vaper reported dead after mysterious lung disease

    The first person has died after being hospitalized from what appears to be an unknown lung illness linked to vaping. 193 people have been struck with similar symptoms between June 28th and today, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    The pain has been especially acute in Illinois, where the number of e-cigarette users who were hospitalized for lung symptoms doubled over the last week. Right now, 22 people have been hospitalized; 12 more people’s cases are being reviewed.

    It’s not yet clear whether the symptoms associated with the hospitalizations are from a single illness. In Illinois, the people who are being hospitalized are relatively young: between the ages of 17 and 38. Symptoms include being short of breath or having difficulty breathing, according to the CDC. Some patients said they had chest pain before being hospitalized. Others experienced vomiting, diarrhea, and fatigue.

    “We must get the word out that using e-cigarettes and vaping can be dangerous”
    The cause is unknown, though CDC officials say it’s unlikely that a virus or bacteria is the culprit. No one has identified any particular product that might be sickening people, either. The CDC is urging doctors to report any unexplained cases of lung illnesses that might be linked to vaping, along with information about what products their patients are using. The CDC, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and state public health officials are investigating the unexplained lung disease.

    “The severity of illness people are experiencing is alarming and we must get the word out that using e-cigarettes and vaping can be dangerous,” said Ngozi Ezike, director of the Illinois Department of Public Health, in a statement.

    Source: https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/23/...14B8r6LY9rsGXnTO07EcIXC81mQTxEiE78vdjLsYi5k4s
     
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    To be honest, these type of articles are starting to annoy me now, specially in the FB comments.
     
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    Ok, so we have no clue what caused this but have to warn people about the dangers of vaping... Has the world gone nuts?!

    (That is a rhetorical question by the way.)

    Regards
     
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    My wife told me about this yesterday.

    "You should stop vaping! 22 people in USA died because of vaping!"

    This is the kind of reaction people have when they misread articles and headlines
     
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    in Afrikaans..Pop stront, soos my oorle Pa sou se.
     
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    People on this forum reported similar symtoms with high nic vaping?
     
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    Shame , my heart goes out to those poor people [sic]
    how many ppl died in JOHANNESBURG due to robbery and crime in the same time ?
     
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    They must be vaping deep dish pizzas and glass I'm pretty sure of it, since I started vaping with the pretend cigarette with the red glowing tip when you pull on it, the one with the dodgy cartridge here are my simptomes

    1. Smoking less cigarettes per day
    2. No sinus or coughing
    3. Passing my annual medical exam
    4. Buying better mods and making my own sauce
     
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    This has to be a drug related thing, I read somewhere some idiots vape mdma and meth to conceal the usage, DO NOT put wierd stuff in your vape, that's why common sense does not need labels
     
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    Not sure if this helps or contributes in anyway but I've been a vaper for 8 years now (maybe even 9) if you count the year I discovered e-cigs and used them alongside analogues. I've had zero vape related health issues in this entire time. In fact, the frequency of non-vape related illness has even decreased. My immune system is stronger, my lung capacity is better, I run faster, swim longer and enjoy various other sporting activities due to higher endurance levels. Obviously there is a degree of practice that plays a role in endurance but my point is that the hinderance to progress is non-existent.

    Vaping changed my life for the better. I breathe better, I feel stronger, I taste and smell really well... My sinuses don't bother me anymore and my blood circulation is much better too.

    The problem lies in sub-par juices (cartomizers etc) as well as synthetic substances being added to vape juice. This is compounded by the unregulated juice market where we simply rely on the integrity of the juice makers.

    In essence, this is a USA problem related to USA vapers who make use of THC and synthetic drugs. This issue did not exist prior to the inception of THC juice. It's also unheard of in other countries. We now have drug dealers making e-juice and compromising the integrity of the 'straight' guys.
     
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    This is the truest form of misinformation, they were vaping illicit THC cartridges, which is a very popular way of getting high in legal states in the US. What they were vaping was untested and unregulated, the narrative that they were just vaping is so frustratingly incorrect.
     
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    The problem is the %&$@$ media with their attention-getting headlines.
     
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    You know the funny thing is for years people have died from smokeing like but loads and now that 1 person died of "vaping" but the facts point that they used vape related drugs now the whole world craps their pants this just points how stupid and how idioatic the human race can be!!!!!!!
     
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    Thanks for sharing that @Arthster

    Dr Farsalinos always has a great way of explaining these things in an easy to understand way. And he knows his subject matter extremely well.

    I recommend reading this article

    Here is his final concluding paragraph:

    In conclusion, from an epidemiological perspective, the current situation with cases of acute respiratory failure reported in the US, is extremely unlikely (I would say, certainly not) attributed to products that have been available in the worldwide market for years and have been used by millions of consumers. The exact cause for these conditions should be urgently determined, and the emotional, irrational hysteria against e-cigarettes (in general) needs to stop as soon as possible.
     
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    Bottom line is if you have a vape and you fill the tank with 70%Jic and 30% Jay's fluid. Who is to blame when your lungs fall out your nought?

    This doesn't just goes for the media coverage regarding this. I am now referring to media coverage in general, so if someone from a media house happens to read this please read what I am about to say carefully and pay close attention to what exactly i am saying

    Stop skewing headlines and stories to make a sales target. Stop this sensationalization of everything. Stop drawing your own conclusions.

    Research your stories, Get the fact, Speak to both sides of the story and get to know where both parties are coming from

    Stop adapting what people are saying to make it sound that what they have said means something different

    stop scare tactics

    YOU as the media have a responsibility to
    all parties involved to be unbiased, trufull and transparent.

    Start acting responsibly.
     
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    I agree @Arthster

    Unfortunately there seem to be very few actual investigative journalists around these days. Most articles are copy and paste hacks from unsubstantiated sources, used as click bait, and to fill news feeds.
     
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