Nic salts - yay or nay?

Discussion in 'General E-Liquid Talk' started by Silver, 15/12/18.

Do you use nic salt juices?

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  1. Most definitely - it's pretty much all I use - they are great!

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  2. They have their place in certain applications

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  3. Nah, not for me - I don't use them

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  4. I don't know - I haven't tried them

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  1. Vix

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    I used nic salts for close to 8 months exclusively with all matter of pod system from the Suorin drop to my current Lost Vape Orion. My main reason for using Nic salts was for the throat hit you got from it I found much more satisfying than 3 or 6mg Freebase. My main issue is a few months in started realizing I was very susceptible to getting a very irritated throat and sinuses that got super irritated. Shortness of breath also became more prevalent but think that was more on me as I like a restricted DL.

    I have now switched back to 3 and 6mg Freebase on my Dvarw DL and must say starting to think due to the limited juice choices in salts and having to replace pods every second day combined with the above "health" drawbacks doubt ill go back to salt nics.
     
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    You raise a good point @Vix
    The options for higher strength normal nic juices (above 6mg) are not very plentiful
    There are a few vendors that sell their juices in a customisable fashion all the way up to 18 and beyond - but they are few.

    Maybe the nic salts are appealing to those who want more nic and can't get it in normal nic version juice.

    I just found that the throat hit on the nic salts was much lower. What I mean by throat hit is the sensation while vaping. There was a big cumulative nic loading over time - but when taking a drag, it was very smooth.
     
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    I was on stinkies for 17 years and been vaping for 2 and always searched for that throat sensation. For me personally exactly as you say that sensation in your throat when vaping is more what I am after than the nicotine itself and initially Nic salts gave that to me but not better than freebase just more frequently.

    But out side of the irritation it caused to my throat and sinuses the main reason I moved back to freebase is the massive change in options of juice available compared to nic salts.
     
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    I started out at 24 nic on the advice of my B+M and gradually got it down to 3 with no craves, it'll work for you as from what I've read nicotine isn't the most addictive on its own.The combination of the many toxins along with nicotine in combination thoughtfully provided by Philip Morris and friends is what does it.
     
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    I’m a avid salt Nic user, there is always a skyline set up in MTL mode with some 40mg close by or a pod system.No, it’s not a all day vape but it is always close by when I am unable to go out for a real vape ie. when flying or at airports or in between meetings or while in the hangar or just in the office. It’s kind o my in between vape .
     
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    Thanks for this @Silver really interesting read and to see everyone's comments on it.
    I do like my nic salts here and there...
     
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    Off the nic salts and I honestly don’t miss it. The last puff I took, I actually didn’t enjoy. Cravings for a stinkie have stayed away, I’m just carrying on normally with free base nic now. :)
     
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    Good to hear the cravings are at bay
    Thanks for the update @Carnival

    At the end of the day if we are off the stinkies then we are winning!
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    Everything is addictive.if not to you then to someone else.even nic patches.the tobaccy plant,ice cream,sweets and chocolates and the all time favorite...Coca cola.
    Your body craves what it needs to function properly especially if your used to it. And your body also craves food and fruits because of how it metabolises and helps release hormones that your body needs to make you feel good.
    For some nice salts work and for others free based works but then for others the craving still persists for smoking because we metabolise nic differently.just make a tobacco tea and see how that craving goes away. I do believe some people are addicted to tobacco (as a plant) or whatever else is in there that we never heard about. That's why NET is the only thing that work for a few vapers.
     
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    Well certain things are definately more addictive than other. Few years ago I had a 14 day stint in hospital and I was given at least once a day pethadine(spelling?) Injected straight into a vein via a drip. Up to three years after that I still sometimes got a huge craving for that. And I never used drugs etc. Ok except for a few pappegaaislaai zolle in university
     
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    Hence most heroine addicts admit first taste was prescription drugs. other drugs like coke I'm not sure ,but tobacco is a story of its own.
     
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    I find I am even addicted to the action of vaping and I honestly think this is one of the main reasons vaping is such a success to get off the stinkies. The habit of smoking is just as addictive as the actual tabacco and nicotine and I found being able to still do my "routine" and the put something to my mouth and inhale or take a "smoke break" but vaping made getting off the stinkies so much easier.
     
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    I normally let a pencil hang in my mouth like a stinkie. The taste of wood helps at times.
    With so many chemicals in a stinkies, who is to say it's not the nicotine and maybe one of the other chemical substances we were addicted to and the nic just helps with the cravings.
     
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    Yea I find the flavour muted compared to normal e-juice, the coughing as well and that is makes me feel dizzy even a few days later.
     
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    As @incredible_hullk said, there is definitely a chemical taste to nic salts. I used to love nic salts and still vape it for the high nic when I need a turbo-charge, but I'm getting tired of that chemical taste.

    I've tried a number of different flavours and brands and I think the best one for flavour is Joose - Toffee D'Lux Mint @Naeemhoosen

    I used to be a big fan of Element and although I still enjoy the Gusto pods, but the liquid juice doesn't taste as good in other mods.
     
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    Odd thing is, a Vape shop owner told me Nic Salt juice is mainly meant for devices like this (Image below). Warned me that if I use it in a vape device like mine (Istick Pico) that I can get nicotine poisoning. This true?

    [​IMG]
     
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    It depends on the strength of the Nic salts and the type of power you would vape it on in your Pico.

    If you using lowish power (say under 15 watts) and higher ohm coils (say 1 ohm and above) then it should be okay.

    If the Nic salt is very strong you may get an overdose of Nic and not feel well for a while if you vape it on too much power like you would normal juices at high power with lots of airflow.
     
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    @Silver @saa044 It's not just a case of not feeling well. Apparently if nic salts are vaped at high temperatures, a toxin called benzoic acid is released.

    @saa044 The reason why there are specific devices for nic salts, as the vape shop owner showed you, is that these devices cannot go above a certain wattage and, furthermore, the coils for them are always 1.0ohm or higher (never vape nic salts with a sub-ohm coil).

    If you want to use your Pico you could be placing yourself at risk if you forget to turn down the wattage and, if you're using commercial coils, I don't know if you get coils for the Pico at 1.0ohm or above.

    Conclusion: If you want to vape nic salts, buy yourself one of those devices which the vape shop owner showed you. If you want something cheaper get an EGO AIO ECO. I've been using one for months already for my nic salts and it's perfect and a few of my friends have bought them too.
    (Note: It must be the EGO AIO ECO)
     
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    If possible i would like any and everyone that has or are using nic Salts to share their experiences? Benefits, side effects, etc?

    Sent from my LYA-L09 using Tapatalk
     
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    @Spongebob I quit smoking siggies December 17 using salts.started off on 35mg using the breeze 2 pod.I was a heavy smoker and I was hitting the salts hard and probably way too hard infact.after about a week when going to sleep I had a very weird experience.I would dose off and just as I would fall into a deep sleep I would be woken up by a jump as if someone gave me a heck of a freight.my heart racing and then feel woozy.not sure if this makes any sense.almost a feeling of fainting or passing out.the funny part is it only happened when falling asleep and sometimes when laying down.

    Funny you post this now..I was at a vape shop today and spoke to a guy working there and he had the same experience but it happened to him during the day aswell.even when driving.
    He went to the Dr and they did blood tests.according to the Dr he had enough nicotine in his blood to last him 3 months.scary stuff!!!

    With this being said I'm not sorry I went with the salt nic to get off the siggies.it really helped me.I still carried on using it but just less intake and started dropping to lower strength.for the last 2 days I have not had salts but just took a few hits for that nic fix like 10 minutes ago. (Bit of a headrush)

    I've been meaning to start a thread regarding this
     
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    Nothing kills nicotine cravings better than nic salts. But once u switch to direct lung and enjoy blowing big clouds of flavour, nic salts will be boring.
    I never get the flavour experience from mix salts like I do from my dual coil high wattage devices.
    I use nic salts mostly as my first vape in the morning and after gym when the cravings are the worst.
    I am vaping much more than I used to smoke. I was 6-9 stinkies a day guy. Reason was I never used to smoke inside the house but no such restrictions when it comes to vaping. So some days I switch to 0nic vape and I take a puff or two from my nic salt device when I crave for nic.
     
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    For me the only thing that kept me off cigarettes was nic salts. I can vape 3-6 mg in an rda all day long and still want cigaretts. But low watts and 35mg nic salts and I am great! Haven't smoked a cigarette in months. The only problem for me is finding nic salt I like and I eventually would like to go down to maybe 12mg freebase nic but that is hard to find in local vape shops by me everything is 3mg to 6 usually. I feel the nic salt kills the flavor of ejuice. For me anyway I dont think it will ever taste as good as reg.
     
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    For me it was the throat hit that I craved more than the fix....first throat hit second nic fix. After giving up stinkies moved to the Twisp Cue and it was the next best thing to sliced bread for me being an ex smoker. Then saw the hype train take off with nic salts...I jumped on and stayed on for a bit. Tried nic salts in an RTA, in AIO devices/pods and even lower powered devices like refilling the twisp cue pods. Nothing worked for me personally. I would cough more intensely then when compared to me having a stinkie after doing a sprint. It wasn't immediate but like after the first 4 puffs maybe.

    tried everything from wicking to lowering power to different local and international nic salt juice and nada! Nic salts to me will also never just taste great. That chemical taste always lingers somewhere in the inhale or exhale and with less or no throat hit (this is what they are specifically made to do) I wondered, why am I even doing this if throat hit is what I was after. Jumped off the train thereafter and went to 12mg freebase...I am now at 8mg (MTL).

    And like @Faiyaz Cheulkar I was also a 10 stinkies a day kinda guy but with vaping, I vape much more. So nic salts wasn't an option for me as I was taking in WAY TOO much nic and that was one of my goals after giving up stinkies, to cut off my dependency on nic completely.

    The only way you will know is if you try it!!
     
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    Yeah, I would probably never have gone the DIY route if the majority of local juice vendors did not stop selling 12/18 mg regular nic juice. Tried nic salts, but hated the chemical taste.
     
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    Hi @Spongebob

    Hope you don't mind but I moved your post and the subsequent replies to this existing thread on nic salts.

    Thanks for reviving the topic - and hopefully it will be good to keep all the info in one place for better future reference.