Trump Announces Disastrous Plan to Ban Flavored Vapes Across the US

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11 Sept. 2019

President Donald Trump announced on September 11 that he wants the Food and Drug Administration to plan to pull flavored vaping products from the US market. Describing vaping as “a new problem in the country,” he told reporters after a policy meeting that “very, very strong action” may be needed to protect “innocent children.”

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar confirmed that the FDA is finalizing plans to ban all flavors except tobacco across the country. The process of implementing a national ban would be expected to take several months.
 
He’s opening the door wide open to the black market of food flavour and one shots. That is not going to stop people from vaping ;)
 
He’s opening the door wide open to the black market of food flavour and one shots. That is not going to stop people from vaping ;)
Agreed, but a decision like this could have a ripple effect and other countries could follow suite. Yes each country has their own laws and regulations but they do look to other countries to see how certain matters are handled.
 
"ban all flavors except tobacco across the country" It seems Mr Trump and Mr Azar likes to vape tobacco juice:wondering:
 
This would be very sad if it went ahead

The wonderful flavours in vaping are one of its key strengths versus smoking in my opinion
 
I'm so triggered this morning - its incredible. We are all taking about the Black Market cutting agents that are causing kids to die - and Trump wants to ban flavours because of reasons.

I need a holiday you guys, its getting to me.

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In all honesty I don't think it is a bad decision. The problem with vaping is that it's more trendy in teenagers whereas smoking has obviously become out of fashion so if this is going to help reduce more kids falling into nicotine addiction I wouldn't mind paying the extra cent or going the extra mile to find the flavours I need to satisfy my addiction. I'm basing this on the the assumption that not all kids who would start vaping could opt for cigarettes if vaping is less readily available or attractive(flavoured) . Remember that 99% of us started vaping to kick the stinkies out. Here, the target is non smokers.
Still needs to be verified through a proper prospective study....
 
In all honesty I don't think it is a bad decision. The problem with vaping is that it's more trendy in teenagers whereas smoking has obviously become out of fashion so if this is going to help reduce more kids falling into nicotine addiction I wouldn't mind paying the extra cent or going the extra mile to find the flavours I need to satisfy my addiction. I'm basing this on the the assumption that not all kids who would start vaping could opt for cigarettes if vaping is less readily available or attractive(flavoured) . Remember that 99% of us started vaping to kick the stinkies out. Here, the target is non smokers.
Still needs to be verified through a proper prospective study....

Teenagers smoke and drink, why is tobacco and alcohol not banned outright? We have flavoured cigarettes, flavoured beers and ciders, flavoured gin, why not ban those too?

Teenagers and children are being killed by guns, where is the ban on guns?

This is the hypocrisy that is infuriating.
 
Teenagers smoke and drink, why is tobacco and alcohol not banned outright? We have flavoured cigarettes, flavoured beers and ciders, flavoured gin, why not ban those too?

Teenagers and children are being killed by guns, where is the ban on guns?

This is the hypocrisy that is infuriating.
Yup, EXACTLY My point on the White House post also.

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Dont these political people have way more important things to worry about like Hunger, Climate Change, Terrorism ect?
 
If any of you guys have read "The Presidents Keepers" Book

I was shocked, The Stinkie industry is much greater then you think (just imagine we already know how big it is)

Big politicians make more money then the government does in the Stinkie industry

*Big Sigh* Signs of the times when corruption and greed become the order of the day
 
This a minor set back for vaping and e-cig industry . Sad day for our vaping comrades in USA but i believe not so much for the rest of us . The UK on other hand is much more open to the healthy side of vaping . The media plays a very a big role in the onslaught against vaping . i have noticed in my light reading and browsing of news channels that only the bad side of vaping is being thrown in the public face , but the positive articles are hardly mentioned . The media is puppets in this propaganda war and the public is being pushed towards the ol'stinky cancer flavored sticks . Yes the is a problem with underage vaping and yes vaping is not as healthy as a salad but its healthier and cleaner than the stickies .

i believe that the cure for cancer or better treatment their of has already been discovered but its kept in the dark , Why? Cancer , death and healthcare in the general is a multi billion profit industry and switching to vaping will put a damper on lung related health treatments and cancers .

https://news.sky.com/story/vaping-what-you-need-to-know-about-e-cigarettes-11792707
 
Also remember, next year is elections in the US. So a lot of populist announcements will be made until then that makes zero sense but gets the votes.

Much like our country.
 


Think I found the american version of @Daniel

Thanks @Adephi for sharing this one, first little bit of sense in this whole thing, especially regarding those that want to force their ways / thoughts / likes / dislikes on you as if you are incapable of making an informed decision by yourself, and only their opinions or biases are acceptable, nothing or no one else’s.
 
When I read about the probable flavour ban, my first thought was that if any USA juice is your favourite, better stockpile now.
Although I do love many of the internationals, I think we have outstanding local juice so it wouldn't be a major issue for me.

However, surely it would affect our local juice makers, because I assume that most concentrates come from the USA? I don't know anything about concentrates, so I hope someone here can reply.
 
When I read about the probable flavour ban, my first thought was that if any USA juice is your favourite, better stockpile now.
Although I do love many of the internationals, I think we have outstanding local juice so it wouldn't be a major issue for me.

However, surely it would affect our local juice makers, because I assume that most concentrates come from the USA? I don't know anything about concentrates, so I hope someone here can reply.

I stand to be corrected but I think many of the concentrates come from Europe and Malaysia
 
When I read about the probable flavour ban, my first thought was that if any USA juice is your favourite, better stockpile now.
Although I do love many of the internationals, I think we have outstanding local juice so it wouldn't be a major issue for me.

However, surely it would affect our local juice makers, because I assume that most concentrates come from the USA? I don't know anything about concentrates, so I hope someone here can reply.

I would love to see how they enforce the flavour ban for DIY. A lot of the concentrates are also used in artificial food flavourings. Like candies and icecreams and even drinks. I can bet the guy behind Switch energy drinks flavours is a diy vaper.

Only Flavorah is specifically for vaping (might be a few more). But the big ones like TFA and Capella are all designed for food that just happen to be safe for vaping. Or rather, they cater for vapers as well.
 
I would love to see how they enforce the flavour ban for DIY. A lot of the concentrates are also used in artificial food flavourings. Like candies and icecreams and even drinks. I can bet the guy behind Switch energy drinks flavours is a diy vaper.

Only Flavorah is specifically for vaping (might be a few more). But the big ones like TFA and Capella are all designed for food that just happen to be safe for vaping. Or rather, they cater for vapers as well.

Thanks @Adephi, I actually forgot that most of the concentrates are food flavourings! I wonder than in what way Flavorah is different from the food flavourings...
 
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