Many holiday-makers here left on 4 Jan. and many more saying that they will leave before the end of this week, as they are concerned that new travel restrictions could be imposed next week.
Lockdown diaries - COVID-19 matters!
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This virus has made me paranoid - or conscientious? Since about mid-Dec. I've been keeping a list of "symptoms" which I experience and the date on which I experience them. These "symptoms" would, under normal circumstances, go unnoticed and certainly unrecorded. For example, I have a headache. Record it. I feel a little breathless. Record it. I have a pain in my thumb. Record it.
Question for those in the know (I do not want to search the Internet for possible incorrect answers.)
If one has been exposed to the virus, how long before any symptoms manifest? My reason for asking is this. I've been in contact with many holiday-makers and because of that, I've stayed far away from my brother, who also lives here.
If my last contact with a holiday-maker or the family with whom they were staying is on X date, how long must I wait before it is safe to see my brother again, on the assumption that I am clear?
Question for those in the know (I do not want to search the Internet for possible incorrect answers.)
If one has been exposed to the virus, how long before any symptoms manifest? My reason for asking is this. I've been in contact with many holiday-makers and because of that, I've stayed far away from my brother, who also lives here.
If my last contact with a holiday-maker or the family with whom they were staying is on X date, how long must I wait before it is safe to see my brother again, on the assumption that I am clear?
I asked my doctor the same thing after my last KZN trip, and was told to self isolate for 5 days and then test, however things may have changed in the past two months with the advent of this new strain?
It varies from patient to patient. In general its around 5 days from exposure to onset of symptoms but it can take up to 14 days.
COVID-19 vaccine may need to be re-engineered for South Africa
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/scie...d-for-south-africa.html?utm_source=newsletter
''Professor Adrian Puren has noted that the recently-discovered coronavirus mutation may require the COVID-19 vaccine to be re-engineered to be effective.''
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/scie...d-for-south-africa.html?utm_source=newsletter
''Professor Adrian Puren has noted that the recently-discovered coronavirus mutation may require the COVID-19 vaccine to be re-engineered to be effective.''
Please don't do this, you will drive yourself insane. Symptoms don't mean you are infectious, you become infectious before you show symptoms. So if you had contact with someone and you don't know what they get up to, stay away from vulnerable people for 14 days.
Another one of my friends got infected, had a small birthday for her fiance, 10 of them, they slept the night because of curfew, next morning after everyone left, one guest messaged to say she just got her test results back and she was positive. She didn't even tell anyone she had the sniffles or had a test because her mother (a GP) said everyone needs to get it at some time. She infected all other 9 people during that night. Some of the felt very little, some battled for 3 weeks and have lost their smell/taste now.
Ivermectin.- Google Is your friend.
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Stay away from auto medication guys please. That stuff is effective against the virus but only at toxic levels for humans.... speak to your treating doctors and don’t get your information for Dr Google/FB and Co.
P.S: I know, we all know someone who took it and made him feel 100 times better in no time... that’s not an argument. The same thing happened with Hydroxychloroquine until people started dying from “unexplained” cardiac arrests last year in May-June...
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SA healthcare workers advocate use of Ivermectin for COVID-19 treatment
Specialist at the Lenmed Shifaa Hospital Dr Farida Amod says while the vaccine is being procured, Ivermectin can help to reduce the number of coronavirus infections and COVID-19 related deaths.
Healthcare workers including doctors are lobbying for the use of the drug Ivermectin, a drug which treats parasitic and viral infections in pets, to treat and prevent the coronavirus.
Specialist at the Lenmed Shifaa Hospital Dr Farida Amod says while the vaccine is being procured, Ivermectin can help to reduce the number of coronavirus infections and COVID-19 related deaths.
“Ivermectin in some randomised controlled trials and in some epidemiologic settings where they’ve used it for mass programmes has been shown to have been very positive So I think when you have a situation where the need is so dire and immediate, we can’t wait for new drugs because that takes time. So, to use re-purposed drugs like ivermectin is an excellent idea.”
Dr Amod says Ivermectin is a therapeutic bridge between where we are now till when the vaccine becomes widely available. It does not replace the vaccine or fill the vital gap of an effective vaccine.
She says it has been successfully rolled out in overseas countries to contain the spread of the coronavirus.
Two weeks ago, the South African Health Products Authority (SAHPRA) had banned Ivermectin, saying there was no clinical evidence to support claims that it’s a miracle cure for COVID-19.
It further warned that its use could lead to harmful effects and even death.
However, SAHPRA has since said it’s currently reviewing new data it has received regarding the use of Ivermectin, as outlined in the video below:
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/s...ate-use-of-ivermectin-for-covid-19-treatment/
Specialist at the Lenmed Shifaa Hospital Dr Farida Amod says while the vaccine is being procured, Ivermectin can help to reduce the number of coronavirus infections and COVID-19 related deaths.
Healthcare workers including doctors are lobbying for the use of the drug Ivermectin, a drug which treats parasitic and viral infections in pets, to treat and prevent the coronavirus.
Specialist at the Lenmed Shifaa Hospital Dr Farida Amod says while the vaccine is being procured, Ivermectin can help to reduce the number of coronavirus infections and COVID-19 related deaths.
“Ivermectin in some randomised controlled trials and in some epidemiologic settings where they’ve used it for mass programmes has been shown to have been very positive So I think when you have a situation where the need is so dire and immediate, we can’t wait for new drugs because that takes time. So, to use re-purposed drugs like ivermectin is an excellent idea.”
Dr Amod says Ivermectin is a therapeutic bridge between where we are now till when the vaccine becomes widely available. It does not replace the vaccine or fill the vital gap of an effective vaccine.
She says it has been successfully rolled out in overseas countries to contain the spread of the coronavirus.
Two weeks ago, the South African Health Products Authority (SAHPRA) had banned Ivermectin, saying there was no clinical evidence to support claims that it’s a miracle cure for COVID-19.
It further warned that its use could lead to harmful effects and even death.
However, SAHPRA has since said it’s currently reviewing new data it has received regarding the use of Ivermectin, as outlined in the video below:
https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/s...ate-use-of-ivermectin-for-covid-19-treatment/
I'm more concerned about growing a flange under my armpit, (or worse
), so I entrust my health related issues to people who know, (as apposed think they know), what they're doing ... #just saying
Out of curiosity, how do you choose the doctor you trust vs one you don't?
Interesting question, and I answer it with a question;
Is your "gut feel" ever wrong?
You just KNOW
Interesting question, and I answer it with a question;
Is your "gut feel" ever wrong?
You just KNOW
Thanks, the question was inspired by the true story, that got me thinking for a while in the aftermath.
To answer yours: I was wrong every time I didn't listen to it.
Personally, I won't trust a medical professional when they test positive for any of theses, they in a rush/lack of patience, they talk down to me, don't explain to me what the issue is or what the drug does that they want to prescribe.
A medical professional who isn't human and doesn't treat me like a human, should be in a lab doing experiments, not treating me.
... That medical professional was in a lab and released a deadly virus causing a pandemic.. if hes not pro vaping, I won't even bother.
So it's been banned and the people that could be saved on a normal day from whatever(non covid related) they would need this ivermectin illegal substance, is now also waiting to be a statistic.
Meanwhile Bloomberg suggesting level 4
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...er-measures-to-curb-covid?srnd=premium-africa
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...er-measures-to-curb-covid?srnd=premium-africa
Is the active ingredient in Ivermectin effective in combating SARS-CoV-2? It could very well be, but I'm not a scientist or doctor.
Is it safe to buy a medicine specifically designed for use in animals, and that has known serious side effects in humans, over the counter and then self medicate with the guidance of a YouTube / Facebook video? NOT A EFFIN CHANCE
It might well be the "miracle" drug we are waiting for, but I'm not taking it as is.
The dosage most of the FB/YT gang suggests is that of cows at 1ml per 50kg of weight. An regurgitating feeder with 4 stomachs.... Yes, we are very anatomically similar....
Is it safe to buy a medicine specifically designed for use in animals, and that has known serious side effects in humans, over the counter and then self medicate with the guidance of a YouTube / Facebook video? NOT A EFFIN CHANCE
It might well be the "miracle" drug we are waiting for, but I'm not taking it as is.
The dosage most of the FB/YT gang suggests is that of cows at 1ml per 50kg of weight. An regurgitating feeder with 4 stomachs.... Yes, we are very anatomically similar....
Is the active ingredient in Ivermectin effective in combating SARS-CoV-2? It could very well be, but I'm not a scientist or doctor.
Is it safe to buy a medicine specifically designed for use in animals, and that has known serious side effects in humans, over the counter and then self medicate with the guidance of a YouTube / Facebook video? NOT A EFFIN CHANCE
It might well be the "miracle" drug we are waiting for, but I'm not taking it as is.
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The dosage most of the FB/YT gang suggests is that of cows at 1ml per 50kg of weight. An regurgitating feeder with 4 stomachs.... Yes, we are very anatomically similar...
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Wait, the same people advocating this is the same people questioning the vaccine?
I give up..
Is the active ingredient in Ivermectin effective in combating SARS-CoV-2? It could very well be, but I'm not a scientist or doctor.
Is it safe to buy a medicine specifically designed for use in animals, and that has known serious side effects in humans, over the counter and then self medicate with the guidance of a YouTube / Facebook video? NOT A EFFIN CHANCE
It might well be the "miracle" drug we are waiting for, but I'm not taking it as is.
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The dosage most of the FB/YT gang suggests is that of cows at 1ml per 50kg of weight. An regurgitating feeder with 4 stomachs.... Yes, we are very anatomically similar....
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
Introduction
There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people. Several extensive reports, including reviews authored by us, have been published detailing the events behind the discovery, development and commercialization of the avermectins and ivermectin (22,23-dihydroavermectin B), as well as the donation of ivermectin and its use in combating Onchocerciasis and lymphatic filariasis.1–6) However, none have concentrated in detail on the interacting sequence of events involved in the passage of the drug into human use.
When it first appeared in the late-1970s, ivermectin, a derivative of avermectin (Fig. (Fig.1 )1 ) was a truly revolutionary drug, unprecedented in many ways. It was the world’s first endectocide, forerunner of a completely new class of antiparasitic agents, potently active against a wide range of internal and external nematodes and arthropods. In the early-1970s, a novel international Public Sector–Private Sector partnership was initiated by one of us (Ōmura, then head of the Antibiotics Research Group at Tokyo’s Kitasato Institute), forming a collaboration with the US-based Merck, Sharp and Dohme (MSD) pharmaceutical company. Under the terms of the research agreement, researchers at the Kitasato Institute isolated organisms from soil samples and carried out preliminary in vitro evaluation of their bioactivity. Promising bioactive samples were then sent to the MSD laboratories for further in vivo testing where a potent and promising novel bioactivity was found, subsequently identified as being caused by a new compound, which was named ‘avermectin’.7) Despite decades of searching around the world, the Japanese microorganism remains the only source of avermectin ever found.1) Originating from a single Japanese soil sample and the outcome of the innovative, international collaborative research partnership to find new antiparasitics, the extremely safe and more effective avermectin derivative, ivermectin, was initially introduced as a commercial product for Animal Health in 1981. It is effective against a wide range of parasites, including gastrointestinal roundworms, lungworms, mites, lice and hornflies.7–12) Ivermectin is also highly effective against ticks, for example, the ixodid tick Rhipicephalus (Boophilus) microplus, one of the most important cattle parasites in the tropics and subtropics, which causes enormous economic damage. Indicative of the impact, in Brazil, where some 80% of the bovine herd is infested, losses total about $2 billion annually.13) Today, ivermectin is being used to treat billions of livestock and pets around the world, helping to boost production of food and leather products, as well as keep billions of companion animals, particularly dogs and horses, healthy. The ‘Blockbuster’ drug in the Animal Health sector, meaning that it achieved annual sales in excess of over US$1 billion, maintained that status for over 20 years. It is so useful and adaptable that it is also being used off-label, sometimes, illegally, for example to treat fish lice in the aquaculture industry, where it can have a negative impact on non-target organisms. It also has extensive uses in agriculture.2)
Figure 1.
Molecular diagrams of avermectin and the di-hydro derivative, ivermectin.
Ivermectin proved to be even more of a ‘Wonder drug’ in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis in humans in 1988. It proved ideal in many ways, being highly effective and broad-spectrum, safe, well tolerated and could be easily administered (a single, annual oral dose). It is used to treat a variety of internal nematode infections, including Onchocerciasis, Strongyloidiasis, Ascariasis, cutaneous larva migrans, filariases, Gnathostomiasis and Trichuriasis, as well as for oral treatment of ectoparasitic infections, such as Pediculosis (lice infestation) and scabies (mite infestation).14) Ivermectin is the essential mainstay of two global disease elimination campaigns that should soon rid the world of two of its most disfiguring and devastating diseases, Onchocerciasis and Lymphatic filariasis, which blight the lives of billions of the poor and disadvantaged throughout the tropics. It is likely that, throughout the next decade, well over 200 million people will be taking the drug annually or semi-annually, via innovative globally-coordinated Mass Drug Administration (MDA) programmes. Indeed, the discovery, development and deployment of ivermectin, produced by an unprecedented partnership between the Private Sector pharmaceutical multinational Merck & Co. Inc., and the Public Sector Kitasato Institute in Tokyo, aided by an extraordinary coalition of multidisciplinary international partners and disease-affected communities, has been recognized by many experts and observers as one of the greatest medical accomplishments of the 20th century.15) In referring to the international efforts to tackle Onchocerciasis in which ivermectin is now the sole control tool, the UNESCO World Science Report concluded, “the progress that has been made in combating the disease represents one of the most triumphant public health campaigns ever waged in the developing world”.16)
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