Stinkies are from hell MR Deedz does it MTL

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    Bro,that's Awesome and respect to your bro. for the audible adjustment.
    I also get that feeling sometimes and when I do the Twisp tobacco is my go to.
    But then again any Twisp juice takes my cravings away no matter the NIC content and flavour.
    Congrats on the achievement and keep it up.
     
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    @Room Fogger

    I whole heartedly agree. I think we're all so hell bent on giving up and trying so hard that we completely forget that there are no guidelines for quiting.

    @Resistance

    Thanks. I might look into a Twisp of sorts at some point in time for those "bad" days. ;-)

    I am currently just taking it a day at time and reminding myself that I managed to go without a smoke the day before, so I'll be able to get through today as well.
     
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    I smoked more than a pack of Camels per day for over 30 years. I started vaping just over five years ago. From the first day of vaping I didn't touch another stinky. I had never tried to stop smoking before. I also had no real intention of trying vaping to stop smoking. I love gadgets and thought that I would just try it out for fun.

    After the first few puffs on an Ego Clearomizer something must have clicked in my brain which convinced me that it was a total replacement for smoking. I never looked back. I started buying new kit like there was no tomorrow. I think that I was also lucky to be one of the early users because new groundbreaking stuff was coming out at an amazing rate. For a gadget freak, it was an exciting time. When the Subtank Mini RBA came out it was game over for smoking.

    I was "lucky" because, as I said earlier, something just clicked and I truly believed that there was no reason to smoke again because vaping was not only a good replacement but it was in fact far better. My addiction to smoking was based on nic plus the rituals associated with smoking (habit). Vaping provided an infinitely customisable nic delivery system which was far superior to smoking which was based solely on more cigs equals more nic. The vaping rituals are way more intricate than the smoking ones. There is an almost infinite number of variables to play with (mods,RTAs, RBA,s RDTAs, batteries, chargers, DIY juice, coils, cotton, etc. etc. etc.).

    Perhaps the greatest influence on me was the Ecigssa forum. Everything was new and exciting and I was able to share in the progress with a great bunch of fellow enthusiasts. Things have changed in the vaping world and the focus of the forum has also changed. What remains is the desire to help others to quit smoking.

    Good luck @MrDeedz .
     
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    U can have the best of gear ,AIO, pod systems , Nic salts etc, however will all still come back to U and how important it is to U to quit the stinkies.... Smoked for 27 years, going on just over 1.5 years cigarette free now and I can assure u it’s not so easy to quit... Will take a lot of willpower; support from people around you and all the vape stuff off course.... Take 1 day at a time and stay strong.....
     
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    I am now stinkie free since September of 2012. For those that can remember back that far, we had a bad time of things. I was on 20-30 per day, and I hear you, more when potting.
    But what was this vaping thing, man this looks like an answer but we did not have a lot of choice and almost exclusively MTL. Cigalikes, small pen style devices and then the big breakthrough, tanks with wicks. This was what did the trick for me but throughout all of that journey I was using 36mg juice and I believe that is what ultimately pulled me off the addiction to stinkies.

    I have however seen first hand how many people have said I want off the stinkies and then and gone out and on the advice of the vaping shop salesperson bought a 200 w dual 18650 mod and disposable tanks with a 0.15 coil and 3mg nic juice.

    This will not work and I have given up trying to explain why the very expensive kit they just bought will not help with the addiction. I just get abused and told vaping is !@#%.

    Many years ago I read a paper about human nicotine demand. I was astonished at how much nicotine is in other foodstuffs and plants and how the body has a natural demand for nicotine. This is why it does not poison us. It also explained why if we smoke as teens our body's demand more as adults.

    To my mind this all makes sense and if my 2c is worth 2c then I can almost categorize the requirements.

    Heavy smoker trying to quit equals MTL device pushing high nic content. Long battery life and minimum fuss tank. (It really is easy to pull out a box and a lighter and stick a stinkie in your face)

    Light smoker or social smoker looking to convert equals trendy mod, med to low nic juice and maybe a tank with easy to change pre built coils

    Vaper: here we can go mad. I consider myself in this category but previously was in the first. Vaping is now a lifestyle a continuous learning curve of mods , tanks, batteries, coil building and DIY juice blending. A hobby that can take me from an all day MTL to a cloud chasing dual clapton. From a Pico with a Melo to a EHPRO semi mech mod and Nano wasp.

    So to the OP, your journey has just begun, if it is too hot, let the window down a bit, get some wind in your hair and enjoy the ride.
     
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    Morning gents, Hope all is well your side, today marks 3 weeks going strong lol. Im also very strong on them Cue pods needless to say lol. Almost on a pod a day. I have a Zeus single coil RTA. Yesterday I topped it up with some 3mg Juice and eish Its hard to believe that I dont get any throat hit from 3mg anymore which is scary.
    I would like to gain some easy to understand knowledge:
    What is the main differences between a MTL RTA and a Normal RTA?
    Is it mainly just the draw?
    MTL RTA's use high nic freebase juices and different coils?
     
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    @MrDeedz , Biggest difference is that MTL rta’s are usually single coil units that use a higher resistance coil and a tighter draw to mimic the “ciggy” type draw. They can vary from very tight, to loose MTL but can also be used for a restricted DL, tank dependent. Not all of them have that ability to do both perfectly.
    I have found that I sometimes get better flavour from MTL than DL, and you usually do higher nic 50/50 juices in them, some can handle 60/40 and even 70/30. Examples, OBS MTL has a vey tight draw imho, Savour looser to slightly restricted DL, Siren 2 best all rounder for me. You will have to try a couple to find your sweet spot.

    BTW, I love my Zeus for flavour, but the airflow is nearly fully closed these days if I use it! If you need some more info pm me, I may even be able to do a meetup location depending where in Gauteng you are for you to try some of mine to give you a better idea. Have 2 pod systems you can try as well that work well.
     
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    Firstly, congrats on the three weeks stinky free.

    Regarding doing 3mg DL. IMHO the biggest mistake made when quitting is moving over to lower nic too early. It's fun to do some low nic DL when you are quitting but I don't think one should try to reduce nic early on. After about a month of quitting our confidence seems to grow and we tell ourselves that we have done the job and can now move on to the next phase of reducing nic. I believe that this is often the reason why people "successfully" quit, but then return to smoking after a few months.

    I realise that you are still using the Cue. This is good. Don't be tempted to reduce the pod by substituting the DL RTA.

    One of our well-known forumites (you know who you are :)) has been stinky free for years but still vapes 18mg MTL most of the time because he likes the throat hit. IMO there is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Nic is not our enemy..... smoking tobacco is.

    Just my 2mg worth. Keep up the good work.
     
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    @Room Fogger strikes again. Great offer.

    I recall that when I "rated" you I said something along the lines of "you are a true vaper's friend". This has always proven to be the case. Rock on.
     
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    I have a couple of single coil RDA's that @Room Fogger can pick up for you should you be interested. Might even have a sqounker to go with it. Let me know, the clever guys will just have to help you with the right coil options for MTL as I am a DL vaper.
     
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    Have you considered doing an MTL RDA/RDTA with a squonker?
    You can run it on the "hotter" side if you want and the RDA should get you closer to a "wet" vape, not that it will ever get close to a big DL RDA setup.
    I agree with some of the advice about getting a good tobacco liquid with a nice sharp throat hit and good Nic levels, as I can only assume it's that tobacco comfort that pulls you back to the stinkies.
    I was on 20+ a day and am coming up on a year without (18 March will be a VERY big day in my life) and my daily vape is a 12mg tobacco in a Kayfun Lite. I vary between three juices, each with a different accent to battle the sensory fatigue. This is my habitual fix, then I have a DL setup that changes every week as my "sweet treat" in-between the tobaccos.
    What works for me may not work for you, so you need to find that setup that gives you that same initial "aahhhh" feeling that a slow drag of a cigarette gives you at the end of a long day. Once you find that, you are golden.
     
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    I totally agree with all what you said there. If you’re starting at a high level of Nic to get off the stinkies then don’t be afraid to take your time to wean yourself off very slowly otherwise you’re running the risk of a bounce off effect. Try setting very affordable targets and be patient if you can’t cut down on the Nic then you are not ready yet or maybe that is simply your sweet spot and you have to accept it. I started at 18mg 3 and a half year ago and I’m at 1mg in MTL Mode most of the time nowadays but still do feel the urge to up the Nic a bit from time to time. Enjoy the journey!
     
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    Thanks, Thats why I love this forum, always helps to outsource your thinking, After reading Puffs & Room Foggers insightful comments it struck home, Not gona think I am done now and back to 3mg juices on an RDA. I just miss being a flavor chaser but lately I realized I need the NIC hit.



    Went to my local twips stand now and stocked up for another 10 days after the comments,
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    Will revisit THE MTL RTA topic again maybe at the end of the month and see if the budget permits me getting a decent MTL RTA even if its second.

    There are 3 MTL RTA's I would do research on that Jurgen from this forum recommended to me. Met him over the wknd. Top bloke with alot of knowledge!

    eXpromizer v4
    Ammit MTL
    Hellvape MD

    Will Def take you up on that invite in the near future @Room Fogger . Need to test a few MTL RTA's and see if its actually something I would like. Much appreesh for this.

    Thanks again guys for sharing the love and insight!
     
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    If you do decide to go RTA/RDA the Nautilus 2 is also a good option with variable airflow that can be dialed in to mimic the draw from a stinkie and it works with NIC salts too. The Berserker RDA is also a winner. I didn't try the RTA but it's on my wishlist.
     

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    Congrats @MrDeedz
    Great achievement!!

    With MTL, I find I need higher Nic
    And I also find that the throat hit I get on a MTL setup with higher Nic is way more intense (and pleasurable) than lower Nic on a Direct Lung device.

    That said I have also liked direct lung a lot because on some juices it’s just more suited to it for me. But a different sensation altogether.

    So doing both with favourite juices seems to work well.

    I have heard good things about the expromiser v4 and have my eye on it. Get a good MTL RTA and try it out. But you need to experiment with the juices. Some work better than others imo.
     
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    The Nautilus 2 kinda looks like bender from Futurama [​IMG]

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    For me the main thing is it works great and I will also take a throat hit over flavour but on this ATTY I get both so I'm content with the looks
     
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    Morning gents. Any personal reviews on the Berseker Mini RTA?
     
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    Most Def mate. I am gonna have to find the right NIC strength and flavor profile. Looking for that "sweet" spot all over again lol. how fun :facepalm:
     
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    No I never had one,always wanted one, but I have an RDA. And when I got the right coil in there VV superfine MTL that @Silver recommend, I could not put it down.
     
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    For me - 8_12mg and play with the wattage (coil 0.5-1.0) An RTA is different to a pod system from my experience. If I go to high on NIC and have the wattage too low I start coughing unless I have a 1-2ohm coil on 12mg plus juice. too high a wattage and everything burns.
     
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    I find this thread so helpful but just a question to the people on this thread, how would you compare the Caliburn or the Bo One to the Cue? Better, worse, same...
     
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    I can't answer that question. I have a cue and a Vladdin RE. I'd rate the Vladdin as good as the Cue as the refillable option, but that's only one perspective. The juice is the other half of the equation.
     
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    So i got me a Berserker. Brace yourselves Many Q's Inbound lol.
    Excited to start a new vape journey on MTL RTA's :pesas:. Lets see how it goes. :headbang:
    Just some quick Q's please:
    Any recommended Flavor coils for the Berseker Mini gents?
    Do i use normal freebase juice in an MTL RTA or HAVE to use MTL Juice?
    Not sure what Nic strength my first bottle of juice should be to give it a try?


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    What does VV stand for bud? And where do you source this coil from? Price?