The Serpent Mini 22 and 25 Build Thread

[Daniel]

So I've had a bit of a love/hate relationship with my serpent mini 25 which could probably be credited to a lack of experience and knowledge but I think I finally saw the light. During the day I carry my SMOK Alien with me in a fanny pack cause I don't want to destroy my gear in my pocket. Unfortunately the Baby Beast's handy filling cap system was not conducive to its environment and ended up with dumping juice in my fanny pack. Not a nice feeling grabbing for ur unit and discovering it's all sticky when you weren't expecting it. I needed a tank that would be able to survive my day without surprises.
Enter the Serpent - I tried a variety of different wicking techniques from a variety of different sources including this thread, even had it wicked by some pros, but all is well for a while and then the dry hits start. I watched all the movies and even bought the bacon but alas happiness was always temporary. Even tried TC with a SS build but no luck.
Finally, in a fit of despair, I pulled out the dual deck from its snug home, twisted two Ni80 9 wrap 2.5mm ID coils, bow tied them with Cotton Bacon, locked and loaded. Vaped it like there is no tomorrow - no dry hits - no sticky goo - tons of flavour - and clouds 4 days.
For those interested: 0.335 ohms at 40 to 45 watts. Gives a warmer vape than single coil but still bearable with only slight ramp up.

Next I'm trying SS316l dual coils in TC

Ok wait hold the phone, you have a fanny pack??!!! Nooit bru....

 

[gdigitel]

LOL @Daniel . Yip a moonbag we used to call it in the eighties.

 

[Daniel]

LOL @Daniel . Yip a moonbag we used to call it in the eighties.

Haha moon bag is probably more appropriate these days.....

Just gave both our ages away there.....

Back to the SM25 I found the SS316 26g build works well for crisper fruity vapes...

Also had/have a love/hate relationship with the Serpent guess that's why they called it that never know if it wants to kill you or just cuddle.....

 

[Mahir]

I always see the Serpent mini gang on here with custom drip tips. How do you guys find the original tip that comes with it?

 

[Daniel]

I always see the Serpent mini gang on here with custom drip tips. How do you guys find the original tip that comes with it?

Too short, especially if you running low builds and I found the spit back on the first refill hectic. I have lovely kissable lips and would like to keep it that way....

 

[blujeenz]

I always see the Serpent mini gang on here with custom drip tips. How do you guys find the original tip that comes with it?

Like sucking on a 13mm ring spanner.
I thought engraving Gedore on my Serpent's driptip might help, but it doesnt.

 

[Rob Fisher]

Funny that I have always felt black tanks are not as good as the stainless steel versions and I have really found that with the SM25... watching Todds review on the new Alto he said the very same thing... so black SM25 gives kak... SM25 SS Single Coil is the way to go.

 

[Waine]

I also prefer single coils on the SM25's. And I always keep my ring piece on.


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[Scissorhands]

I always see the Serpent mini gang on here with custom drip tips. How do you guys find the original tip that comes with it?

To simplify things . . . Its pretty kak, but the reson for so many custom tips? The sm25's flat top is a perfect platform for full figured tips

 

[Mahir]

I love my OBS Engine and really don't need another tank but this thread is so captivating. I think I'm going to break the bank to get a SM25

 

[gdigitel]

I will keep on trying to get the single coil to work for me. Maybe I should start with the only thing that changed since I started with the dual deck, the deck O-rings. It's a long shot but it might be the problem.
So far the single coil deck has certainly made me feel inadequate about my building and wicking ability so it was a relief when I had some joy with the dual coil build.

 

[Spydro]

How many wraps did you do for .18ohms?

5 tight wraps per coil.

 

[kev mac]

Dual 6.5 wrap weaver build. Almost impossible to get neat but absolutely top notch flavour. Still not quite a Mage but getting close now. At 50w I really cannot fault it running a mild cheesecake juice I got more than I bargained for really. At 65w enough clouds to signal the moon.View attachment 80385 View attachment 80386 View attachment 80387

That looks like a weapon,lol. I've never heard of that build and I'm always trolling for new ones,is it a braided build.?

 

[kev mac]

So I've had a bit of a love/hate relationship with my serpent mini 25 which could probably be credited to a lack of experience and knowledge but I think I finally saw the light. During the day I carry my SMOK Alien with me in a fanny pack cause I don't want to destroy my gear in my pocket. Unfortunately the Baby Beast's handy filling cap system was not conducive to its environment and ended up with dumping juice in my fanny pack. Not a nice feeling grabbing for ur unit and discovering it's all sticky when you weren't expecting it. I needed a tank that would be able to survive my day without surprises.
Enter the Serpent - I tried a variety of different wicking techniques from a variety of different sources including this thread, even had it wicked by some pros, but all is well for a while and then the dry hits start. I watched all the movies and even bought the bacon but alas happiness was always temporary. Even tried TC with a SS build but no luck.
Finally, in a fit of despair, I pulled out the dual deck from its snug home, twisted two Ni80 9 wrap 2.5mm ID coils, bow tied them with Cotton Bacon, locked and loaded. Vaped it like there is no tomorrow - no dry hits - no sticky goo - tons of flavour - and clouds 4 days.
For those interested: 0.335 ohms at 40 to 45 watts. Gives a warmer vape than single coil but still bearable with only slight ramp up.

Next I'm trying SS316l dual coils in TC

@gdigitel glad to hear you sorted it out.My experience with the SM22 has been a dream since day one.I've used all type of builds with few problems and now use Clapton coils mostly,my only regret is not getting on board sooner.My undying thanks to Rob for sharing his devotion.btw,how is the Alien working out? I'm anxiously waiting for mine to arrive from Vegas any day now.The only complaint I've heard is the shitty paint so I ordered a sleeve and I can live with that.

 

[kev mac]

I love my OBS Engine and really don't need another tank but this thread is so captivating. I think I'm going to break the bank to get a SM25

yeah I thought that too.Although I love the Engine the Sm is the bomb! I now feel this combo is as good single,double coil RTAs you can have with out going HE.imo

 

[Paraddicted]

5 tight wraps per coil.

Thank you

 

[gdigitel]

btw,how is the Alien working out? I'm anxiously waiting for mine to arrive from Vegas any day now.The only complaint I've heard is the shitty paint so I ordered a sleeve and I can live with that.

Except for the shifty paint, I cannot fault the mod. Great form factor, comfortable trigger system, easy interface with good display. I have occasionally when trying to lock the device (5 clicks), gone into settings mode (3 clicks) when my clicks are erratic. This is annoying at times but easily remedied by concentrating on your clicks.

 

[Silver]

I will keep on trying to get the single coil to work for me. Maybe I should start with the only thing that changed since I started with the dual deck, the deck O-rings. It's a long shot but it might be the problem.
So far the single coil deck has certainly made me feel inadequate about my building and wicking ability so it was a relief when I had some joy with the dual coil build.

Hey @gdigitel

A few weeks back I was getting leaking and then got a dump of juice out of my SM25 with the single coil deck. Juice ran all down my mod. I almost chucked it away. I called Rob Fisher in a desperate attempt to help me out. He said I should take off the base seal - and then reseat it. I did that and since then (touch wood) have had no further issues. Just letting you know in case it might help you.

I have no idea what that reseating exactly did - and my tank was fairly new - but it helped a lot.

 

[Dietz]

So I've had a bit of a love/hate relationship with my serpent mini 25 which could probably be credited to a lack of experience and knowledge but I think I finally saw the light. During the day I carry my SMOK Alien with me in a fanny pack cause I don't want to destroy my gear in my pocket. Unfortunately the Baby Beast's handy filling cap system was not conducive to its environment and ended up with dumping juice in my fanny pack. Not a nice feeling grabbing for ur unit and discovering it's all sticky when you weren't expecting it. I needed a tank that would be able to survive my day without surprises.
Enter the Serpent - I tried a variety of different wicking techniques from a variety of different sources including this thread, even had it wicked by some pros, but all is well for a while and then the dry hits start. I watched all the movies and even bought the bacon but alas happiness was always temporary. Even tried TC with a SS build but no luck.
Finally, in a fit of despair, I pulled out the dual deck from its snug home, twisted two Ni80 9 wrap 2.5mm ID coils, bow tied them with Cotton Bacon, locked and loaded. Vaped it like there is no tomorrow - no dry hits - no sticky goo - tons of flavour - and clouds 4 days.
For those interested: 0.335 ohms at 40 to 45 watts. Gives a warmer vape than single coil but still bearable with only slight ramp up.

Next I'm trying SS316l dual coils in TC

Hi @gdigitel
sounds like its works well! can you post a pic please?

Hey @gdigitel

A few weeks back I was getting leaking and then got a dump of juice out of my SM25 with the single coil deck. Juice ran all down my mod. I almost chucked it away. I called Rob Fisher in a desperate attempt to help me out. He said I should take off the base seal - and then reseat it. I did that and since then (touch wood) have had no further issues. Just letting you know in case it might help you.

I have no idea what that reseating exactly did - and my tank was fairly new - but it helped a lot.

@Silver
I find that somethines when I fill a tank (even half way) WITHOUT immediately vaping on it, then it will leak juice out the bottom. But when I fill it (Even full) and then immediately vape after filling it, then there is no leaks? Any ideas?

Did you remove the o-ring on the base of the deck or on the piece that contains the deck?

 

[Scissorhands]

I love my OBS Engine and really don't need another tank but this thread is so captivating. I think I'm going to break the bank to get a SM25

I have been using mine (sm25) exclusively for 5 months, 90% in a single fused/clapton configuration, it has its learning curve regarding wicking, dont expect it to compete in the cloud department and it accumulates a sweat around the air intake but you can expect fantastic flavour, build quality, battery life and juice consumption. The dual coil deck is a nice addition but definitely not the highlight of this tank

 

[Silver]

Hi @gdigitel
sounds like its works well! can you post a pic please?

@Silver
I find that somethines when I fill a tank (even half way) WITHOUT immediately vaping on it, then it will leak juice out the bottom. But when I fill it (Even full) and then immediately vape after filling it, then there is no leaks? Any ideas?

Did you remove the o-ring on the base of the deck or on the piece that contains the deck?

I have no idea @Dietz what can be causing your leaks. These things are often a mystery to me. I know it has to do with pressure and several other factors. Try closing the top cap very slowly after refilling.

As for the o-ring I dont know which one it was but i dont recall taking anything out first. I think it was the base seal on the base piece of the tank. I dont want to open my tank now to check in case that jinxes my current tankful. Hehe. I will check for you on my next rewicking. Maybe @Rob Fisher can confirm which seal that was.

 

[Rob Fisher]

There is a technique to filling the SM25 that stops the leaks when filling.

Take the tank off the mod... close the air flow... fill the tank... put the top cap on and turn till the threads grip (a turn or two) then flip the tank upside down and slowly close the top cap. Open the airflow and put it back on the mod... happy days... no leaking.

The ring to hold the wick tails are off on all my SM25's.

I use the bow tie method of wicking as shown by @BigGuy in my video... in fact I use that method on most of the tanks I currently use including the Skyline. Hussar, Merlin Mini and of course the SM25.

My go to build is a single coil 24g Ni80 7 wrap 3mm ID that @BigGuy showed me... And Cotton Bacon and Fibre Freaks Cotton Blend give the best results both in the flavour and leak proof making...

 

[Darth Vaper]

Vape mail... hello 2017!
Asmodus Stride VR-80 throne for my shiny new SM25

 

[Rob Fisher]

Vape mail... hello 2017!
Asmodus Stride VR-80 throne for my shiny new SM25
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Beautiful setup... top to bottom!

 

[Dietz]

There is a technique to filling the SM25 that stops the leaks when filling.

Take the tank off the mod... close the air flow... fill the tank... put the top cap on and turn till the threads grip (a turn or two) then flip the tank upside down and slowly close the top cap. Open the airflow and put it back on the mod... happy days... no leaking.

The ring to hold the wick tails are off on all my SM25's.

I use the bow tie method of wicking as shown by @BigGuy in my video... in fact I use that method on most of the tanks I currently use including the Skyline. Hussar, Merlin Mini and of course the SM25.

My go to build is a single coil 24g Ni80 7 wrap 3mm ID that @BigGuy showed me... And Cotton Bacon and Fibre Freaks Cotton Blend give the best results both in the flavour and leak proof making...
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Thanks a mil @Rob Fisher, I will give this a try later tonight when Im home and revert once done!