Coppervape Skyline Discussion

[Jos]

Perhaps you should give the tank a good wash - there may be some left over machine oil somewhere in the mix which is messing with your juice.

If you don't have fancy clapton coils then try a simple 24g Ni80 2.5mm (7 wrap) touch coil - should come out at about 0.4 ish. I vape it about 25 - 28 watts

I have been wicking exactly like @Rob Fisher and have not had any issues with leaking or dryhits.

Don't really have any experience with spaced coils but that is the only thing that @DaveH and @SinnerG's builds have in common and they are suffering the same fate. Perhaps that is the problem

 

[SinnerG]

You might be onto something there, so I'll build a non spaced coil tonight. Then again, I have seen others have success with spaced coils.

Tank had been washed. Soaked in vodka. Wash with dish soap and then thoroughly rinsed and let dry. No machine oil and doesn't smell of any old juice.

 

[ddk1979]

@SinnerG , are you doing DL or MTL with your skyline?

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[Rob Fisher]

I washed the SkyClone with Sunlight Soap and hot water and left it so soak for an hour or two like I do all my new RTA's... I don't get discolouration or muted flavour with it... although I'm still convinced my Gold Plated Skyline gives the best flavour but it may just be in my mind.

 

[SinnerG]

@SinnerG , are you doing DL or MTL with your skyline?

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I want to use the 3x small hole air disc for a tight MTL draw, but I also like the 2x mid-size hole disc for a restricted lung pull. I don't want this "just breathe" DL with this RTA, I have the other tanks and the wasp for that kind of fun. It's fun, but not satisfying.

But if I can't get it right, I'll go restricted lung on one of the other RTAs if I can fix them.

Anyway, I'm really being judged by muted flavour this week and don't know why.

 

[Room Fogger]

I want to use the 3x small hole air disc for a tight MTL draw, but I also like the 2x mid-size hole disc for a restricted lung pull. I don't want this "just breathe" DL with this RTA, I have the other tanks and the wasp for that kind of fun. It's fun, but not satisfying.

But if I can't get it right, I'll go restricted lung on one of the other RTAs if I can fix them.

Anyway, I'm really being judged by muted flavour this week and don't know why.

I really hope you get this right, I use the superfine fused Clapton in mine, maybe that's where the difference comes in. It just seems to be so much better than the rest. Give it a try before you give up in your quest.

I can relate to the fun vs satisfaction aspect, you sit back and you savour the experience with the Skyline, it's like eating a cream doughnut vs jelly and custard. Here's wishes for happy clouds soon.

 

[ddk1979]

Out of all the wicks I tried, only one worked well and it just seems as if I can't replicate it again.
With my kayfun v3 mini it's a matter of a simple little coil, pop in some cotton and away I go with a nice mtl vape.
I am the end of my tether with this "thing'...

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[DaveH]

@ddk1979 I really feel for you ............. it must be frustrating to the 'nth' degree.
If you could find someone in your area with a "working" Skyline and you could get together could be helpful.

Dave

 

[DaveH]

Anyway, I'm really being judged by muted flavour this week and don't know why.

I don't think anyone is judging you, we were just trying to help

Dave

 

[DaveH]

@SinnerG

Using the similar build to yours but is time I have used the air disc with the 3 tiny holes.





With cotton



Juiced up ready to go.


After doing a few preliminary lung exercises so I would be able to suck through those tiny holes my findings are as follows:

12W nothing
16W little vapor, not much taste
20W bit of vapor, and a little taste not very good
24W Now we are getting somewhere the vapor is there along with the flavour, a little warm. Not too bad.
28W Nice dense vapor and a good taste, some what warm.

Vaping at 28Watts gives quite a warm but flavourful vape.

I agree with you vaping it at 20Watts does not give a very good flavour.

It seems with your set up it needs to be vaped above 24Watts, to achieve a decent flavour.

I have one question for you - Why (when you vape your set up) do you stop at 20Watts?


Dave

 

[Silver]

Great pics and explanations @DaveH !
Is that 24g?

 

[Rob Fisher]

I wonder if the juice discoloration isn't related to the clone Air Discs? Take the Air Discs out completely and try again. The plastic or whatever material they are using could be an issue? The reason I say that is because when I first tested the SkyClone dry burning my coil burnt the Air Disc and I never had that issue with the authentic. And the SkyClone I'm testing now I don't have an Air Disc in it. Just a thought?

 

[Room Fogger]

I get slight discoloration without the air disc, but I get in most of my other tanks as well. It does not change the juice taste imho, and when I rewick it is gone for a couple of tanks, so far tobaccos are the worst culprits.

 

[Room Fogger]

@SinnerG

Using the similar build to yours but is time I have used the air disc with the 3 tiny holes.


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With cotton
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Juiced up ready to go.
View attachment 122478

After doing a few preliminary lung exercises so I would be able to suck through those tiny holes my findings are as follows:

12W nothing
16W little vapor, not much taste
20W bit of vapor, and a little taste not very good
24W Now we are getting somewhere the vapor is there along with the flavour, a little warm. Not too bad.
28W Nice dense vapor and a good taste, some what warm.

Vaping at 28Watts gives quite a warm but flavourful vape.

I agree with you vaping it at 20Watts does not give a very good flavour.

It seems with your set up it needs to be vaped above 24Watts, to achieve a decent flavour.

I have one question for you - Why (when you vape your set up) do you stop at 20Watts?


Dave

Van it be because you are using plan wire, with the fused I get flavour fro 14 w and sit at 16 or 18 depending on juice. Going to try a bit higher w no to see if flavour changes

 

[Darth Vaper]

I wonder if the juice discoloration isn't related to the clone Air Discs? Take the Air Discs out completely and try again. The plastic or whatever material they are using could be an issue? The reason I say that is because when I first tested the SkyClone dry burning my coil burnt the Air Disc and I never had that issue with the authentic. And the SkyClone I'm testing now I don't have an Air Disc in it. Just a thought?

I wish, but alas not. I've never used any Air Disc, but I get juice browning

 

[Darth Vaper]

So you've seen no notable differences between the clone and the authentics so far @Rob Fisher ?
If so, that gives me hope that it must be me, and not my second-rate clone, that's the problem here

 

[Rob Fisher]

I wish, but alas not. I've never used any Air Disc, but I get juice browning

Bummer... was worth a shot.

 

[Room Fogger]

Therion 75 with 0.88 ultra fine MTL fused Clapton,no air disc, both airflow open. DL, paulies RY4 sure juice, +- 5 Second slow draws

16 w - cool, smooth flavour full vape
18w - baseline, cool, smooth and good vapour and taste.
20 w- slightly warmer, rest as above
22 w- warmer, more vapour, slight throat hit foe me (3mg) usually do 2 mg.
24 w - warmer, much more vapour, more caramel taste, throat hit,
26 w - warm to hot vapour great cloud, starting to make me cough, caramel sweetness more pronounced.

18 w is my sweet spot, cool comfortable here on 1 or both airflows open, gives ample cloud and good taste for me.i can take long slow draws, taste the caramel and vanilla, but it is not overpowering.

On 16 to 20 w with one airflow open there is a lot more and creamier vapour, 22 to 26 it is really getting hot and I don't enjoy it.

On this specific juice I prefer bot airflows open as it is a bit stronger, thr E-liquid project I do one one open as it is a much lighter juice

 

[Silver]

Therion 75 with 0.88 ultra fine MTL fused Clapton,no air disc, both airflow open. DL, paulies RY4 sure juice, +- 5 Second slow draws

16 w - cool, smooth flavour full vape
18w - baseline, cool, smooth and good vapour and taste.
20 w- slightly warmer, rest as above
22 w- warmer, more vapour, slight throat hit foe me (3mg) usually do 2 mg.
24 w - warmer, much more vapour, more caramel taste, throat hit,
26 w - warm to hot vapour great cloud, starting to make me cough, caramel sweetness more pronounced.

18 w is my sweet spot, cool comfortable here on 1 or both airflows open, gives ample cloud and good taste for me.i can take long slow draws, taste the caramel and vanilla, but it is not overpowering.

On 16 to 20 w with one airflow open there is a lot more and creamier vapour, 22 to 26 it is really getting hot and I don't enjoy it.

On this specific juice I prefer bot airflows open as it is a bit stronger, thr E-liquid project I do one one open as it is a much lighter juice

Great feedback and power testing @Room Fogger

 

[SinnerG]

I don't think anyone is judging you, we were just trying to help

Dave

Urghhh... Auto correct. I meant "bugged".

 

[SinnerG]

@SinnerG

Using the similar build to yours but is time I have used the air disc with the 3 tiny holes.


View attachment 122476


With cotton
View attachment 122477


Juiced up ready to go.
View attachment 122478

After doing a few preliminary lung exercises so I would be able to suck through those tiny holes my findings are as follows:

12W nothing
16W little vapor, not much taste
20W bit of vapor, and a little taste not very good
24W Now we are getting somewhere the vapor is there along with the flavour, a little warm. Not too bad.
28W Nice dense vapor and a good taste, some what warm.

Vaping at 28Watts gives quite a warm but flavourful vape.

I agree with you vaping it at 20Watts does not give a very good flavour.

It seems with your set up it needs to be vaped above 24Watts, to achieve a decent flavour.

I have one question for you - Why (when you vape your set up) do you stop at 20Watts?


Dave

I've done over 30W , but it gets a bit hot.

 

[SinnerG]

I get slight discoloration without the air disc, but I get in most of my other tanks as well. It does not change the juice taste imho, and when I rewick it is gone for a couple of tanks, so far tobaccos are the worst culprits.

It's just the gunked up stuff on the coil washing off.

 

[Vino1718]

Just received my coppervape skyline from FT. See it has no logo. Anyone have both, with logo and without, and is there a difference in vape?

 

[Room Fogger]

Just received my coppervape skyline from FT. See it has no logo. Anyone have both, with logo and without, and is there a difference in vape?

As far as I know they are the same, @BumbleBee indicated that they made 2 batches for two different distribution areas, but then just sent them all over in any case! One with logo, one without

 

[Room Fogger]

It's just the gunked up stuff on the coil washing off.

What juice are you using, I find the tobacco gunks up more than some of the others.