SXK BILLET BOX - Reviews & Discussions

[antonherbst]

Thanks @antonherbst

I generally do contact coils too. In my early days with the RM2 i was getting quite a bit of spitting with spaced coils and i didnt like it. Maybe my wicking wasnt good enough and maybe i should have persevered.

It was @RIEFY that famously showed us a few years back how in theory you get more surface area with spaced coils because the wick bumps up against the sides of the wire in the spaces. And he showed a great photo once which was intriguing. I still want to experiment more with spaced.

I believe its not difficult to do spaced. You just do a normal contact and then when its still on the mandrel, you pull it apart quite a bit, then push it close together. When you let go, there are spaces between the wraps. And you can "pick" at it with a sharp tool to even out the spaces.

I want to try spaced coils in some of my devices. Its on my todo list

It seems as thou the to do list never ends in vaping. I have a few things on my list and its not getting any shorter. for now the tight coils works wonders and why change when something works. One day when i find a change i will do it. Until then plain tight coils in all my setups running between 0,5 and 0,7 ohms.

 

[jamie]

Ok cool

I am curious. A lot of folk use aliens and fused claptons in their exocets or Billet Box atties. Am wondering if anyone has tried a "standard build" with normal round wire, ie nothing exotic. And how does the flavour and longevity compare?

I've been using plain 26g Kanthal, 2.5mm, around 0.6ohm in mine at the moment, just because thats what I had. It's good but I think it could be better. I tried some NI80 26g that I have but I find it tends to break when I dry burn it, so I gave up for now.

I have been tempted to buy some fused claptons to compare.

 

[Petrus]

I exclusively use flat60 haywire 24 ga and build 3mm coils for my billet box. I prefer the Insider atty. I have tried some of these fancy coils, but keep on going back to my Flatwire.

 

[Silver]

I exclusively use flat60 haywire 24 ga and build 3mm coils for my billet box. I prefer the Insider atty. I have tried some of these fancy coils, but keep on going back to my Flatwire.

@Petrus , is that flatwire Kanthal or NI80?

 

[Petrus]

@Petrus , is that flatwire Kanthal or NI80?

Both are nichrome. Flat 60 is a nichrome with a faster ramp up time.

 

[antonherbst]

Hello fellow vapers. I am busy with a pitstop for my reo and sapor dripper.

While i am cleaning i picked up the bb and looked down the chimney into the coil and saw that i had juice build up.

What i need to know is does anybody else have this build up in their bb chimneys?

If so what could cause this and how do i stop this from happening?

 

[Raindance]

Hello fellow vapers. I am busy with a pitstop for my reo and sapor dripper.

While i am cleaning i picked up the bb and looked down the chimney into the coil and saw that i had juice build up.

What i need to know is does anybody else have this build up in their bb chimneys?

If so what could cause this and how do i stop this from happening?

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[TheV]

Hello fellow vapers. I am busy with a pitstop for my reo and sapor dripper.

While i am cleaning i picked up the bb and looked down the chimney into the coil and saw that i had juice build up.

What i need to know is does anybody else have this build up in their bb chimneys?

If so what could cause this and how do i stop this from happening?

How much build up do you have and how bothersome is it?

The chimney on mine is not dry by any stretch but its not bothersome whatsoever.

 

[Raindance]

My BB came without any instructions (user manual) and I am finding the SXK chip a bit foreign. Can anybody direct me to where I can find a type of user manual for this device?

Thanks in advance.

 

[antonherbst]

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Exactly like that. And it is not that i get the juice taste on my lips but i just find the build up awkward

 

[antonherbst]

How much build up do you have and how bothersome is it?

The chimney on mine is not dry by any stretch but its not bothersome whatsoever.

Not that terrible but i dont like the build up. I think its just spit back of vapor that acumalates in the chimney.

 

[antonherbst]

My BB came without any instructions (user manual) and I am finding the SXK chip a bit foreign. Can anybody direct me to where I can find a type of user manual for this device?

Thanks in advance.

I have looked without any prevail. What is is that you want to know about the settngs? I have found that the fire button and the arrow showing towards the borro tank pressed together goes into the menu

 

[Raindance]

I have looked without any prevail. What is is that you want to know about the settngs? I have found that the fire button and the arrow showing towards the borro tank pressed together goes into the menu

Awesome, now I'm getting somewhere. Thanks.

ITO the juice build up, I think its just condensation. Think its normal and nothing to worry about.

Off to explore the menu! Cheers

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

I have looked without any prevail. What is is that you want to know about the settngs? I have found that the fire button and the arrow showing towards the borro tank pressed together goes into the menu

@antonherbst - so there I learned something new. Now what else can I do? For instance how do I get out of the menu again?


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[GerritVisagie]

Double tap the fire button


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[RenaldoRheeder]

Double tap the fire button


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Cool @GerritVisagie - 2 new things learned today. This is a good day


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[antonherbst]

I have decided to write a little manual help for any sxk bb 70w owners as i have learnt over the last month of having mine and what i found. This is in no way the supplier manual but more a learnt by exploration manual of my bb 70w.

This is not for the dna model.

So here is my take of what is important to know on how to operate the sxk bb.

Intro for the purpose of this when using the arrow keys i will say that the one pointing at the juice tank is up and the one facing the bottom of the billet box to be down. And then we have the fire button on the oposite side of the bb.

1. To switch the mod on and off - you need to press the fire button 5 times in quick concession.

2. To access the menu press and hold both the up and fire button.

3. In the menu the up and down buttons will go on to the various availible menu options. Number of puffs, Taste adjustment=power curve, Screen off/on and screen rotation.

4. The fire and down button does not relate to any option or settings.

5. To lock the wattage of the bb you can press both the up and down button together to get the billet box locked on the desired wattage setting.

These are just the basic button options and what they do.

In the various menu options i would suggest playing around with the configurations to see what each one does.

I have however learned that the power curve mode the mod can be setup to fire from the set wattage in higher/lower wattage and longer/shorter time intervals.

This will hopefully help the newbs with their billet boxes and i am no expert with these mods. If any bb owner has learnt more from their bb other than what i have highlighted here please inform me so that we can add it into the guide for the 70w versions billet boxes.

Any dna bb owner is welcome to also inform me and we can make like a small list of instructions for the bb owners.

 

[Hakhan]

I have decided to write a little manual help for any sxk bb 70w owners as i have learnt over the last month of having mine and what i found. This is in no way the supplier manual but more a learnt by exploration manual of my bb 70w.

This is not for the dna model.

So here is my take of what is important to know on how to operate the sxk bb.

Intro for the purpose of this when using the arrow keys i will say that the one pointing at the juice tank is up and the one facing the bottom of the billet box to be down. And then we have the fire button on the oposite side of the bb.

1. To switch the mod on and off - you need to press the fire button 5 times in quick concession.

2. To access the menu press and hold both the up and fire button.

3. In the menu the up and down buttons will go on to the various availible menu options. Number of puffs, Taste adjustment=power curve, Screen off/on and screen rotation.

4. The fire and down button does not relate to any option or settings.

5. To lock the wattage of the bb you can press both the up and down button together to get the billet box locked on the desired wattage setting.

These are just the basic button options and what they do.

In the various menu options i would suggest playing around with the configurations to see what each one does.

I have however learned that the power curve mode the mod can be setup to fire from the set wattage in higher/lower wattage and longer/shorter time intervals.

This will hopefully help the newbs with their billet boxes and i am no expert with these mods. If any bb owner has learnt more from their bb other than what i have highlighted here please inform me so that we can add it into the guide for the 70w versions billet boxes.

Any dna bb owner is welcome to also inform me and we can make like a small list of instructions for the bb owners.

3 taps of the power button will get you into wattage/mech node

 

[GerritVisagie]

And your set wattage in power mode, will be your base wattage in TC mode.
So to adjust that, you need to go back to power mode and adjust there. Then back to TC mode


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[kev mac]

Thanks man! This has officially taken top spot as my favorite device

@TheV ,hi guy.This mod has peaked my interest of late but I have some questions.
First what is better the DNA version or the SXK board one?My research has led me to believe that this mod has no USB port so why pay extra if you can't hook up to escribe?The 70w version is said to be slightly overpowered ( I like this) mainly I'd like to know how users feel about the two versions. Secondly what Atty gives the best flavor?

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

@TheV ,hi guy.This mod has peaked my interest of late but I have some questions.
First what is better the DNA version or the SXK board one?My research has led me to believe that this mod has no USB port so why pay extra if you can't hook up to escribe?The 70w version is said to be slightly overpowered ( I like this) mainly I'd like to know how users feel about the two versions. Secondly what Atty gives the best flavor?

@kev mac, you are sure to get so more detailed responses. I have been using the 70W SXK version for a short while now, and it is defenitely a game changer. I have only tested with the SXK Insider and Exocet. In my opinion (between those two) the Exocet wins in flavor.


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[TheV]

@TheV ,hi guy.This mod has peaked my interest of late but I have some questions.
First what is better the DNA version or the SXK board one?My research has led me to believe that this mod has no USB port so why pay extra if you can't hook up to escribe?The 70w version is said to be slightly overpowered ( I like this) mainly I'd like to know how users feel about the two versions. Secondly what Atty gives the best flavor?

Hi @kev mac I'm by no means a BB expert but I will add my 2 cents to the mix.
I've used both the SXK DNA60 and SXK 70 but not really side by side with the same atty, build and juice, so I can't say for sure, but they are much the same in my opinion.
I bought the SXK DNA60 purely because it is the same chip that you get in the authentic Billet Box, not because there was overwhelming evidence that it is better than the SXK 70.
There is indeed no directly accessible USB port on the DNA60 but you can hook up a Evolve data board if you are willing to open the device up and do some very minor disassembly if you were so inclined.
Unfortunately I can't comment on the SXK 70 being overpowered. Perhaps another user here can?
Either way, I don't think you can go wrong with either device. The SXK 70 is quite a bit cheaper and definitely more readily available.
I've heard very little complaints from the SXK 70 users

Regarding the attys, that is where things get interesting.
By far the general consensus seems ... get the Exocet. Maybe not for better flavor (because I've heard the argument go either way) but mostly for ease of use.
The Exocet is (according to most) much easier than the Insider to get right. This alone would lead me to recommend the Exocet over the Insider.
These SXK attys are cheap enough to consider getting both down the line. That is what I did. I got the Exocet with my BB and later placed an order for the Insider (which I'm still waiting for).

One thing that I feel I have to mention that you did not ask about is the draw on the BB. Depending on what you are used to, or what you preference is, the BB might not be to your liking because of the draw. If you are used to vaping a Goon 1.5 with the airflow all the way open (who does that?) the BB is gonna feel like you are trying to suck a golf ball through a straw. It is not an excessively restricted MTL draw but it is certainly more restricted that most of the large airy attys on the market today. Think more Hadaly and less Goon. Just something to keep in mind.

It has quickly crept up the ranks and taken the absolute #1 spot in my vaping arsenal ... but as with anything vaping (and most other things in life) - It is a personal preference

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

Hi @kev mac I'm by no means a BB expert but I will add my 2 cents to the mix.
I've used both the SXK DNA60 and SXK 70 but not really side by side with the same atty, build and juice, so I can't say for sure, but they are much the same in my opinion.
I bought the SXK DNA60 purely because it is the same chip that you get in the authentic Billet Box, not because there was overwhelming evidence that it is better than the SXK 70.
There is indeed no directly accessible USB port on the DNA60 but you can hook up a Evolve data board if you are willing to open the device up and do some very minor disassembly if you were so inclined.
Unfortunately I can't comment on the SXK 70 being overpowered. Perhaps another user here can?
Either way, I don't think you can go wrong with either device. The SXK 70 is quite a bit cheaper and definitely more readily available.
I've heard very little complaints from the SXK 70 users

Regarding the attys, that is where things get interesting.
By far the general consensus seems ... get the Exocet. Maybe not for better flavor (because I've heard the argument go either way) but mostly for ease of use.
The Exocet is (according to most) much easier than the Insider to get right. This alone would lead me to recommend the Exocet over the Insider.
These SXK attys are cheap enough to consider getting both down the line. That is what I did. I got the Exocet with my BB and later placed an order for the Insider (which I'm still waiting for).

One thing that I feel I have to mention that you did not ask about is the draw on the BB. Depending on what you are used to, or what you preference is, the BB might not be to your liking because of the draw. If you are used to vaping a Goon 1.5 with the airflow all the way open (who does that?) the BB is gonna feel like you are trying to suck a golf ball through a straw. It is not an excessively restricted MTL draw but it is certainly more restricted that most of the large airy attys on the market today. Think more Hadaly and less Goon. Just something to keep in mind.

It has quickly crept up the ranks and taken the absolute #1 spot in my vaping arsenal ... but as with anything vaping (and most other things in life) - It is a personal preference

Having buildt both the SXK versions of the Insider and Exocet (and specifically following @Rob Fisher advice on the little wicking for the Insider) I found them to be equal in ease of building. I have an issue with leaking when refilling the Insider, but have not spend time to investigate it further.


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[Darth Vaper]

From what I can tell, the 70W version appears 'overpowered' as it under-reads resistance... my BB coils read about 0.45 on the mod that I build them on, but read 0.38 in the BB. Which is why they run hotter.

 

[Darth Vaper]

If anyone else has been experiencing some dry hit /wicking issues on the SXK Exocet - like I have, and @Rob Fisher did when he tested it - I think I've found the cause...
You need to drop your coil as low as you can, obviously without touching the base. If your coil is any higher, the wick gets a bit restricted by the top cap. You can see this by removing your wick, keeping the top cap on, and looking at the atty through the wick holes. I don't have an original Exocet to compare it too, but I have heard that the juice-flow channels on the original are deeper, allowing for better wicking. Since dropping my coil, I haven't had any wicking issues at all