All about menthol and coolants

[Seemo.wm]

So of course, as fate would have it, I ordered a bottle of FA Menthol Arctic before finding this thread.

Opinions on this concentrate?

And how much exactly do youguys suggest adding to a commercially mixed 30ml bottle?
I've gathered that @Silver has been indulging in this practice?

I thoroughly enjoy a good ice, but not overpowering.

 

[Silver]

So of course, as fate would have it, I ordered a bottle of FA Menthol Arctic before finding this thread.

Opinions on this concentrate?

And how much exactly do youguys suggest adding to a commercially mixed 30ml bottle?
I've gathered that @Silver has been indulging in this practice?

I thoroughly enjoy a good ice, but not overpowering.

Hi @Seemo.wm
Im not sure about FA Menthol Arctic

But what i would suggest is adding 10 drops to 10ml of juice. And work up, so if 10 drops is too little, add another 5 drops and so on. Better to use 10ml of juice so you dont ruin it if there's too much menthol.

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

I havent made icre cream or milshake DIY juices @Jean claude Vaaldamme but i do think its appropriate to add coolant to them because ice cream is cold. I guess its a case of how you like it.

I like adding menthol to my juices and have tried adding it to most of the juices i have bought.
I like menthol in my tobacco and fruity vapes. It enhances them for me. Livens them up. Brightens it. Sometimes makes the underlying flavours taste even better. And it makes it refreshing. Also enhances throat hit a bit.

But when i try add it to desserts it usually doesnt work.

Is some menthols better tham others? And if so which do you prefer? I also like menthol, bought the CB one, but even at 2% I get the menthol but not that big menthol taste/coolness. But then again, maybe I have a tin throat, as even with 9mg scrawny gecko nic I never really got a troat hit

 

[Silver]

Is some menthols better tham others? And if so which do you prefer? I also like menthol, bought the CB one, but even at 2% I get the menthol but not that big menthol taste/coolness. But then again, maybe I have a tin throat, as even with 9mg scrawny gecko nic I never really got a troat hit

Hi @Jean claude Vaaldamme
I moved your post to this existing thread about coolants and menthols
Have a look from the beginning, it may help you and give you further ideas.

I think you need to try out various menthols and coolants for yourself to see what you like best.

I love my Vapour Mountain menthol concentrate. To me it just tastes great. Have tried TFA and one or two others but this VM menthol is my preferred menthol. That said, i dont make DIY juices with it - i just add it to other juices to taste. I start with say 10 drops in 10ml of juice, then go up if necessary. Not scientific i know. But it works for me.

The WS23 is a coolant without the menthol taste. Sort of like ice cubes. Just cold but no real taste.

Koolada is supposed to be the same but koolada irritates my throat and makes me cough

 

[M.Adhir]

Hi @Jean claude Vaaldamme
I moved your post to this existing thread about coolants and menthols
Have a look from the beginning, it may help you and give you further ideas.

I think you need to try out various menthols and coolants for yourself to see what you like best.

I love my Vapour Mountain menthol concentrate. To me it just tastes great. Have tried TFA and one or two others but this VM menthol is my preferred menthol. That said, i dont make DIY juices with it - i just add it to other juices to taste. I start with say 10 drops in 10ml of juice, then go up if necessary. Not scientific i know. But it works for me.

The WS23 is a coolant without the menthol taste. Sort of like ice cubes. Just cold but no real taste.

Koolada is supposed to be the same but koolada irritates my throat and makes me cough

Koolada is WS5- Menthyl Methyl Lactate.
WS23 is Methyl Diisopropyl Propionamide.

WS5 irritates my throat as well.

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Anyone ever vaped menthol at 10%? Tried to recover a mix that was ok but not great and did nit calculate good and mixed 10% menthol with it. All I can say is EISh!

 

[Paul33]

Anyone ever vaped menthol at 10%? Tried to recover a mix that was ok but not great and did nit calculate good and mixed 10% menthol with it. All I can say is EISh!

What was the recipe?
maybe we can help you out.

Which menthol was it?

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

What was the recipe?
maybe we can help you out.

Which menthol was it?

Just another one of my wicks bubblegum own mixes that never work. FA methol

 

[Paul33]

Just another one of my wicks bubblegum own mixes that never work. FA methol

I did that a few times before. Wasn’t paying attention and mixes went sideways.

 

[X-Calibre786]

Anyone ever vaped menthol at 10%? Tried to recover a mix that was ok but not great and did nit calculate good and mixed 10% menthol with it. All I can say is EISh!

Been there, buddy.

 

[Silver]

Anyone ever vaped menthol at 10%? Tried to recover a mix that was ok but not great and did nit calculate good and mixed 10% menthol with it. All I can say is EISh!

Not 10% but most of my fruity menthols where I add menthol concentrate are at about 5-6% I would estimate. That's with VM Menthol concentrate. Lovely

What i have done a few times is put a juice in a dripper that I want to add menthol to - then drop a drop or two of menthol concentrate. First puff is like vaping frozen ice. Unpleasant, but after a few more puffs it blends in - then I can get an idea of what menthol does to that juice.

 

[RainstormZA]

Lol mine is 1-2% using Blck Ice WS23

 

[Vilaishima]

Lol mine is 1-2% with WS23

Adam se Klokke has WS-23 (20%) at 5%. It is like a kick in the groin. Fantastic!

 

[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

Just tell me something. Does coolants and menthols mix in completely with juices. I have found that I get this hotspots where you just get the coolant/menthol while you vape and the other times a mixture and other times just the pure juice taste without the coolant/menthol.
Im even getting it with the bought Red pill

 

[Silver]

Just tell me something. Does coolants and menthols mix in completely with juices. I have found that I get this hotspots where you just get the coolant/menthol while you vape and the other times a mixture and other times just the pure juice taste without the coolant/menthol.
Im even getting it with the bought Red pill

I find that happens if i shake the bottle too little or if i add menthol drops directly into a tank and dont shake it enough after.

But if i shake the bottle, put it down for a bit, then shake again and repeat that two or three times then i dont get menthol hotspots in my blends where I add menthol. I also shake the bottle just before filling a tank.

 

[Adephi]

Has anybody heard about WS-5?

Was following a conversation on Discord a few days back where they discussed this. Apparently it's not as potent as WS-23 and it gives more of a mouth cooling effect rather than a throat cooling.

But nobody is stocking it as yet. Not even the overseas vendors. So it might be some time before we get it here.

 

[Carnival]

Not 10% but most of my fruity menthols where I add menthol concentrate are at about 5-6% I would estimate. That's with VM Menthol concentrate. Lovely

What i have done a few times is put a juice in a dripper that I want to add menthol to - then drop a drop or two of menthol concentrate. First puff is like vaping frozen ice. Unpleasant, but after a few more puffs it blends in - then I can get an idea of what menthol does to that juice.

5-6%?? I would shrivel up from the frosty amount of menthol in that and die, lol! But I know well by now that you love your coolant in juices.

 

[Elmien]

I started looking into DIY liquids. I like fruit liquids with the cooling effect and while looking at that, landed on this post. I read through all the posts and saw that a lot of the posts mention the WS23 black ice. I also saw a WS23 by Flavour World on their site. Is there a difference? Which one is better?

 

[Andre]

I started looking into DIY liquids. I like fruit liquids with the cooling effect and while looking at that, landed on this post. I read through all the posts and saw that a lot of the posts mention the WS23 black ice. I also saw a WS23 by Flavour World on their site. Is there a difference? Which one is better?

Same thing. Black Ice is WS-23 at 20%. Most international recipes will have it at 30%. I see Flavour World offers it at 10, 20 and 30%.

 

[Asterix]

I need to place an order with either Blkvapour or Boss that includes menthol. I currently use VM Menthol at 1 to 1.5% in a few recipes but ordering only this from Vapour Mountain gets expensive with courier fees.

Is there another brand menthol that will give a (very) similar taste? and if so, what percentage?

Thanks.

 

[StompieZA]

Got some Black Ice yesterday from BLCK vapour and vaping on my first ice juice today and its excellent at 1%. Might even go up to 1.5% if you really want it cold.

If i vape and then take a sip of my water, my throat feels like its freezing!

 

[Silver]

Hi @CJB85 , you asked a question in @NOOB 's classified ad about whether you can add menthol to a tobacco juice.
https://www.ecigssa.co.za/unused-gear-sale.t58263/#post-771711

You most certainly can. I do it often. I use VM's menthol concentrate but you can use any menthol concentrate. I add a few drops and see how it tastes after a shake. If I need more, I add a few more. And so on.

I find adding menthol to fruity and tobacco juices enhances them a whole lot for me. Makes them brighter and more enjoyable to my palate. Sometimes menthol can even transform an average juice into something quite nice.

I always have my menthol concentrate ready....

 

[Room Fogger]

Hi @CJB85 , you asked a question in @NOOB 's classified ad about whether you can add menthol to a tobacco juice.
https://www.ecigssa.co.za/unused-gear-sale.t58263/#post-771711

You most certainly can. I do it often. I use VM's menthol concentrate but you can use any menthol concentrate. I add a few drops and see how it tastes after a shake. If I need more, I add a few more. And so on.

I find adding menthol to fruity and tobacco juices enhances them a whole lot for me. Makes them brighter and more enjoyable to my palate. Sometimes menthol can even transform an average juice into something quite nice.

I always have my menthol concentrate ready....

And @Silver , you really like them cold! Winter coming and my Menthol is ready, gonna be some merry Menthol days coming up.

Can’t wait to test on the mechs, they handle it different. Come on Friday, officially declared mech day!

 

[Quintusson]

My 2c worth

TFA Koolada - as mentioned before, initially this was one of the only coolant concentrates out there so I used it when I wanted some coolness but it has a sharp edge to it that I do not like, at all.

FA Polar Blast and FW Extreme Ice - must admit I have not played a lot with these since I discovered my go-to ice flavour so cannot comment too much

WS-23 20% or 30% - Excellent coolant with one drawback. If I use this at anything from 1% upward it triggers my asthma. I first experienced this when I tried some of the (wildly popular back then) Fantasi ranges and found myself running back to my table from the smoking area to get my asthma pump which at the time was not used for about 6 months so I hope it still worked, which it did. So for me, under 1% it is a excellent coolant though it does have the after effect that if you drink water after having a few pulls on a juice with that in, that you do not need ice in your water

Clyrolinx Clyrocool - this is my go-to coolant. I can use this up to 2% even without experiencing any asthmatic effects. I have not tried it above 2% since at that point it is so cool that even on a hot summers day I get chills. No flavour transfer either, it does what it is supposed to do and it does it well. The only drawback about it - and now I am being pedantic - is the bottles it comes in. When I need to squeeze the pipette to get more out and without thinking, 5 minutes later I touch my face or such with the fingers that touched the pipette, I get this ice cold feeling which I then have to wash off.

 

[CJB85]

Hi @CJB85 , you asked a question in @NOOB 's classified ad about whether you can add menthol to a tobacco juice.
https://www.ecigssa.co.za/unused-gear-sale.t58263/#post-771711

You most certainly can. I do it often. I use VM's menthol concentrate but you can use any menthol concentrate. I add a few drops and see how it tastes after a shake. If I need more, I add a few more. And so on.

I find adding menthol to fruity and tobacco juices enhances them a whole lot for me. Makes them brighter and more enjoyable to my palate. Sometimes menthol can even transform an average juice into something quite nice.

I always have my menthol concentrate ready....

I will certainly remember that to save bad buys from the bin. I bought some TKO Tabacco-Menthol juice just after I started (seemed like a good shift away from ciggies), but it is really not a nice juice.