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  1. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Now this is really interesting... Thanks @RichJB
  2. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Ouch, did not know this @RichJB , thanks for sharing.
  3. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    :meparto:Baaaaaahahahahaha Brilliant!!!
  4. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @Alex & @Sash Media is merely a tool used to control by larger groups or bodies. The media gets funded by who ever wants to get their message across, in this case by government, tobacco companies & pharmaceutical industry. These bodies got some nice funding behind them, so yes, the media will be...
  5. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @Effjh They are already in the market, some tobacco companies already introduced their vape products True, very true...
  6. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @Tanja & @RichJB When? We will probably know when they only start implementing it (although I believe that they already started moving in that direction behind the curtains, it's just not official yet), at the moment there is no indication when it's going to be. But it will be, for sure. To...
  7. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @Effjh Just to add on to your view point. Strictly spoken, the pharmaceutical industry already earned legislation that they should be the sole distributor of vape products as an alternative to quit smoking... I think there is just not enough resources at the moment to properly introduce and...
  8. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @Effjh A very valid point. One thing though, they might be more involved now with discrediting the vape industry to open the market for themselves at a later stage.
  9. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    The doomsday prophets, okay, I get that, yup, they are totally annoying. Lol @ the in the business to make money, totally agree, and I would agree that some people got values and loyalty towards the industry, and then you have those self centered individuals only true to themselves and the...
  10. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Didn't realize my discussion come across as being hysterical, by all means do disregard everything said giving that impression, cause I'm everything but hysterical. Passionate about our industry maybe, but comparing me with hysteria almost make my laugh? This is a discussion and I'm presenting...
  11. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @RichJB I really enjoyed this post, thank you. The controversy is huge, I totally agree and stand corrected with my suggestion of 3000+ statement. In my defense I did not go and google the latest and all the figures available and only went on what I knew is more or less the figure... Well...
  12. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @The_Ice Now this is one heck of a valid point you've got here, their manipulative expert marketing capabilities of the tobacco industry is not a monster to underestimate. Hahahaha @ mevrou dominee tea parties - let's turn that into mevrou dominee vape parties...
  13. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @kev mac I would like to believe that the vape community will stand as one and fight the battle together. Yes, there will be the individual or two that would try to take their claim by going against the stream, but it will be up to the Vape community to "direct" those individuals on the way out...
  14. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @Stillwaters Thank you for your reply and yes, I stand corrected that a heart attack is not a muscle cramp as such. You are not harsh at all and my honest sympathy and wishes for good health goes out to you after your recent unfortunate event. I trust that your recovery is rapid and successful...
  15. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    @RichJB Great post, thank you. Aldehydes is commonly released when alcohol is oxidized, but maybe in vaping it could be different, maybe not? My finding would be that a lot of people use alcohol (more specific Vodka, and I totally disagree with this) to dilute their vape liquid, then you have...
  16. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Thanks for your post @BubiSparks . As for the video, it's a bit off the vape liquid topic and more aimed towards functionality of your vapor device. Very informative though, great video. I do agree that the use of your device must influence the effect vape liquid could have on your health, but I...
  17. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Again, this will depend on whether the flavoring in the vape liquid contain alcohol or not? This would be one of the very important reasons why all contents must be disclosed on vape liquids. This way the consumer can make an informed decision. And may I add, the quality of alcohol would also...
  18. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Agree with you on the Diacetyl, Pentadienone or other potentially harmful substances that could be in flavoring if one use flavoring that contain those substances... We don't know what those can do if one inhale that in vaporized form. One thing though, 70% of most flavoring is PG anyway (as the...
  19. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Totally agree with you on this, I think we must get them hooked on vape... :roto2lol:
  20. Lion

    Vape & Politics

    Thank you for your reply and there is nothing "poor" about it though, your participation is appreciated and duly noted. Not really, in the late 1940's a reputable dr. found that if Propylene Glycol is vaporized and inhaled, it would be beneficial to ones health, as in this form it kills a vast...
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