I haven't had a single dry hit using the Insider (everything clone).
Might be the exception, but thought it worth mentioning
Might be the exception, but thought it worth mentioning
SXK Billet Box Clone Review
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Good luck Oom @robfisher, I've been very lucky, no dry hits on my Exoclone, apart from when I vape it bone dry....
Thanx for the honest review, I enjoyed the read. And thanx for bringing the BB to my attention, it's probably the most influential device I've ever bought.
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Thanx for the honest review, I enjoyed the read. And thanx for bringing the BB to my attention, it's probably the most influential device I've ever bought.
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If anyone wants to part with theirs at a low low price let me know. This is my dream mod, just wish i had the finances
Sounds promising. I'll try the Insider this weekend, I think.
The SXK Clone with authentic boro and authentic Exocet passed with flying colours... no issues at all.
The last test now... Clone BB, Clone Boro and Authentic Exocet.
The last test now... Clone BB, Clone Boro and Authentic Exocet.
@Rob Fisher , you doing an excellent thing here !
Thanks for all the testing!!
Thanks for all the testing!!
Agree with @Silver this is really good of u for all the peeps here including myself that has an sxk BB
@Rob Fisher Just saw this thread now. When I realised it was yours, I fell on the floor and injured my coccyx. My lawyers will be in touch with yours.
Jokes aside, nice one Rob.
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. You may now choose the finest stallion from my stables.
I'm pretty sure all the SXK owners are watching this thread like a hawk at the moment
The clone Boro tank also seems just fine... I'm convinced the problem is with the clone atty... the clone exocet and clone Insider. Some people have had zero issues with thier clone atties and my guess is not all batches are the same... but at the price i guess you can buy 5 of them... test them and throw the lemons into the gorge!
Thanks for reading... going to pass on the clone to a friend and head back to my authentics! But I will try find him a decent clone atty first.
Thanks for reading... going to pass on the clone to a friend and head back to my authentics! But I will try find him a decent clone atty first.
Thanks again Rob! If you do get the chance before passing the clone kit on, would love to know how the clone Exo holds out in your original BB and Boro. Don't want to sound like I'm pushing my luck though 
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Thanks again Rob! If you do get the chance before passing the clone kit on, would love to know how the clone Exo holds out in your original BB and Boro. Don't want to sound like I'm pushing my luck though
@Darth Vaper I did do that a while back and I must say it did not perform... I thought it was just in my mind but then when I set it up again in the clone BB it was still not lekker... I don't rate the clone Exocet's that I have tested at all. But as I said in a previous post it would appear that there are different batches because some people are very happy with them... I'm not.
Okay thanks @Rob Fisher I guess that settles that then... think I'll need to put my Reo up for sale so that I can set my sights on an authentic Exocet then
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I had a clone exo that I passed on to a friend with an authentic bb... he too reported minor niggling issues like poor o-rings and less than snug fitting parts. He rates the authentic as a 10 and the clone as an 8. I wasn't surprised tho because with the clone Exocet the quality control isn't their primary concern. I went through 3 batches before I found one I can live with.
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Getting an authentic Exocet may prove to be really difficult because Hellfire are no longer making them (really stupid move in my not so humble opinion). The Insider is available from time to time but I'm not a fan and I really should try it again... but there is a new bridge making it's debut in 12 days time and that's the Flow which is a postless deck atty for the BB. I am on the list for the first run and will review it as soon as it arrives.
That means I need to try another one because the 2 I have both suck noogies!
The latest batch at sir vape seems to be working properly. I did find subtle differences in the batches I went through. One even had a slightly larger deck with more space between the posts and accommodated a 3ID coil with room to spare.
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Hmm. Okay, you've piqued my interest. I'm trying the latest one now (I ordered both the Exocet and Insider from the latest batch). The Insider in that batch is a mess. Positive post is all skew. But the Exocet looks promising.
Ok, so to report on that experiment:
Used the new Exocet, and the new (black) Boro tank. First observation: the glass on the black Boro is a MUCH tighter fit. Maybe a bit too much, but it moves so, eh.
Second observation: The positive post on the new Exocet doesn't loosen nearly as easily as the first one. Usually when I tighten the post screw onto the coil, it loosens - but not this time. Stayed solid as a rock.
I used 2.5mm ID spaced kanthal 24ga, 5 wraps at 0.43 ohm. I did wick it a little differently this time though: less cotton (it is still kinda snug in the coil but definitely not tight. Then I combed it out with the needle tweezers, trimmed it, and fluffed the hell out of it. Top cap went on, and I trimmed it again (maybe a bit too close to the top cap this time). Then I did the Amir-trick (yeah @Amir , that's trademarked now) and blew onto the cotton to get it to fluff back against the cap.
Into the Boro it went, chimney went on (the chimney isn't tighter on the new Exocet, that's about the same). Filled up the Boro, and it pissed juice all over the table through the air hole at the bottom of the Exocet. Remember I told you that I think I trimmed the cotton a bit too close this time? Yeah..
Anyway, it kinda self-corrected. I blew into the chimney from the top of the Boro, cleared out the bit of juice in there, and the leaking stopped. Filled the Boro to the top and it started leaking again - blew into it again, and it stopped again. Left it alone for a bit, no leaking. Did a few dry puffs through the top of the Boro, no leaking. Blew into it, still no leaking. Kinda bizarre.
But I digress. The filled Boro went into the BB (actually I'm beginning to think that the Boro shouldn't be filled before it's screwed into the BB - maybe @Rob Fisher can comment on that part?), set it to 23W, and off to the races.
In the name of science, I chain-vaped it like a psychopath. I lost count at 10 two-second puffs in succession. This may be attributed to three factors, namely: 10 is a big number, nicotine is a Thing, and I was trying to see where I'm oriented in the room with all the vapour swirling around me. But! Even with that harsh and completely unrealistic punishment, there was nary a dry hit.
I'm just a bit paranoid about the next refill, to see if it leaks again - but we'll see. I've been vaping on it for the last 20 minutes and it's fine so far.
PS: But I do suspect I went too close on the cotton. When I do a hard dry puff, I can hear a droplet or two of juice rattling around in the deck.
PS2: Eventually reached the dreaded refill stage, and yup - it leaks. But strangely enough, only until you do about 3-4 dry puffs and then it's fine again. I of course suspect my wicking here. I don't think the problem is with the combing out of the wick, but rather the tails (outside the top cap) being too short. I suppose it could technically also be the chimney that's leaking where it joins the deck, but I rather doubt it.
I'm 99% sure the Exocet wants REALLY thin cotton, but that the cotton should protrude about 5-7mm outside the deck/topcap. Again, Rob might be able to share his wicking technique here.
Used the new Exocet, and the new (black) Boro tank. First observation: the glass on the black Boro is a MUCH tighter fit. Maybe a bit too much, but it moves so, eh.
Second observation: The positive post on the new Exocet doesn't loosen nearly as easily as the first one. Usually when I tighten the post screw onto the coil, it loosens - but not this time. Stayed solid as a rock.
I used 2.5mm ID spaced kanthal 24ga, 5 wraps at 0.43 ohm. I did wick it a little differently this time though: less cotton (it is still kinda snug in the coil but definitely not tight. Then I combed it out with the needle tweezers, trimmed it, and fluffed the hell out of it. Top cap went on, and I trimmed it again (maybe a bit too close to the top cap this time). Then I did the Amir-trick (yeah @Amir , that's trademarked now) and blew onto the cotton to get it to fluff back against the cap.
Into the Boro it went, chimney went on (the chimney isn't tighter on the new Exocet, that's about the same). Filled up the Boro, and it pissed juice all over the table through the air hole at the bottom of the Exocet. Remember I told you that I think I trimmed the cotton a bit too close this time? Yeah..
Anyway, it kinda self-corrected. I blew into the chimney from the top of the Boro, cleared out the bit of juice in there, and the leaking stopped. Filled the Boro to the top and it started leaking again - blew into it again, and it stopped again. Left it alone for a bit, no leaking. Did a few dry puffs through the top of the Boro, no leaking. Blew into it, still no leaking. Kinda bizarre.
But I digress. The filled Boro went into the BB (actually I'm beginning to think that the Boro shouldn't be filled before it's screwed into the BB - maybe @Rob Fisher can comment on that part?), set it to 23W, and off to the races.
In the name of science, I chain-vaped it like a psychopath. I lost count at 10 two-second puffs in succession. This may be attributed to three factors, namely: 10 is a big number, nicotine is a Thing, and I was trying to see where I'm oriented in the room with all the vapour swirling around me. But! Even with that harsh and completely unrealistic punishment, there was nary a dry hit.
I'm just a bit paranoid about the next refill, to see if it leaks again - but we'll see. I've been vaping on it for the last 20 minutes and it's fine so far.
PS: But I do suspect I went too close on the cotton. When I do a hard dry puff, I can hear a droplet or two of juice rattling around in the deck.
PS2: Eventually reached the dreaded refill stage, and yup - it leaks. But strangely enough, only until you do about 3-4 dry puffs and then it's fine again. I of course suspect my wicking here. I don't think the problem is with the combing out of the wick, but rather the tails (outside the top cap) being too short. I suppose it could technically also be the chimney that's leaking where it joins the deck, but I rather doubt it.
I'm 99% sure the Exocet wants REALLY thin cotton, but that the cotton should protrude about 5-7mm outside the deck/topcap. Again, Rob might be able to share his wicking technique here.
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That is wat I've learnt. The amir trick works nicely. Fluff out the cotton and thing it a bit so it wicks easier. But then u don't need to cut it too short at all. Been working like a charm. Blowing the tails to fluff them works very nicely
I fill mine before I install because sometimes I get over excited and overfill a bit so I like to wipe the excess off before putting it in the BB.
No Rob, I'm talking about the Boro, man.
Yip I gathered that... I install the Exocet in the boro, put the glass on, leave a gap, fill with juice, close the glass, wipe the excess juice off because I like my boro filled with no air left... then popo it into the BB.
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