SXK BILLET BOX - Reviews & Discussions

[Smoke_A_Llama]

@Shatter its a deep hole bud, a really deep hole .... I think I’ve read every page of this thread about four times by the looks of it resistance between 0,35 - 0,5 seems to be the recommended for the Exo and bigger clapton styles ie alien or fused

Also from what I gather the B.B. casts a magic flavour spell on the fruity menthol juices but other juice profiles seem to also shine ..

Think I need to make about 2l of coffee and start from page 1 again ​

 

[Shatter]

lol @Smoke_A_Llama yup been here done that, currently on page 28 for the second read through, and it looks like the BB was built for XXX, or XXX for the BB . But regarding the coils, it seems like a lot of ppl state that staple, alien or fused, with the odd zipper, is the only way to go. Also with those ppl that says X type coils is better, there are other ppl that says X are even better....

 

[Shatter]

But hopefully the master builders and vets will share their knowledge for us pumpkin n00bs to follow

 

[RenaldoRheeder]

But hopefully the master builders and vets will share their knowledge for us pumpkin n00bs to follow

Hi @Shatter - you are about to get various opinions. I personally build with either simple round Ni80 or fused Claptons (also Ni80). ID 2.5mm - 0.5-0.8 Ohm.


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[Rob Fisher]

you lads and ladies keep on going about this BB lol, is the flavour really on point with the likes a RDA (Hadaly, flave, ol16, ect) talking flavour only, the draw / airflow, is subjective. And what builds are recommended, so far it looks like alien or mini alien coils with maybe a clapton, all ni80 by the looks of it? Almost forgot the exo, flow or insider...

It is for fruity menthols anyway... Exocet or Flow. Ni80 Fused 2.5mm Claptons.

 

[Silver]

Hi @Shatter

I have had my BB for a few months now. Still running the same coil that Rob Fisher put in for me when i got it. A RiaanRed fused clapton 2.5mm ID on the Exocet. Its about 0.4 ohms and I vape it around 25-30 Watts.

I mainly use it out and about for its portability. And i have only run a few fruity menthols in it.

Flavour is very good. But I would not say better than some of my other gear. For example, on the Skyline RTA with a simple round wire coil I am getting a crisper vape at lower power. As if its slightly purer. And slightly drier. I like that type of vape.

The vape i get on the BB with the same juice (LIT Sidechick plus menthol drops) is wetter, a bit more rounded and fuller. Its very good. But the vape on my Petri RDA is also very good.

For me, its not the flavour that makes the BB shine. Flavour is good. But what makes it shine is the portability and the all in one aspect. And the battery life is very good on mine. I can do two Boro tankfuls easily on one battery. I am also lucky that i like the restricted draw on it with my exocet and coil/wick setup.

My only drawback for the BB is that when you want to rewick, its a bit of a schlepp. Undo and get it apart, find my pico to dry fire the exocet, wick it (very easy though) then lube all the seals, then put it all together. Hence, for me its not a "tinkerer" device. I have kept the same juice in it for a while. For me its a great device for out and about and its discreet and stylish.

 

[Stosta]

Annnnnd...

I'm done with this POS...

Even after my last clean it started climbing again. I got some alcohol wipes and gave it another clean, popped in a fresh battery, and gave it a try. It all seemed good, I got gifted an Exocet which I put in and it gave me some great flavour. I was a very happy little piggy, had a few toots and then moved onto something else. Going to bed On Friday I turned it off "just in case" (something I never do).

Woke up on Saturday morning and tried to turn it on, but got nothing. Swapped the battery and it worked fine. So I put the other battery in my charger (It was fresh and i maybe spent 30 minutes vaping it, should have lasted me at least two days), and it read at 1.15V in the charger.

So now the little bastard is also killing batteries for me. It will go into a box and get buried out the back, it doesn't even deserve such a send off in my honest opinion!

 

[Silver]

Sorry to hear about that @Stosta
What a bummer and such bad luck

 

[Stosta]

Sorry to hear about that @Stosta
What a bummer and such bad luck

Thanks @Silver .

I am right in thinking that a battery that has been discharged that low needs to be binned right?

 

[Silver]

Thanks @Silver .

I am right in thinking that a battery that has been discharged that low needs to be binned right?

I am not sure @Stosta
1.15 V is rather low
But some of these chargers have the ability to "resurrect" a low battery and get it going again
If the charger charges it up again, maybe you can test it ans see how it works without stressing it too much

Safest would be to replace it, but i am not sure

 

[SmokeyJoe]

So while at work today, my beloved BB starts jumping ohms on the kanger rba. Not just a little, from 0.8 to 2.5 ohms. So obviously the cotton turned into charcoal. Luckily had a semi working backup at work. So 2 hours ago i arrive home in panic station mode stressing about my BB. So i do a thorough cleaning of the whole BB and rba. Rebuild, wick, same result, ohms jumping to high heaven. Rebuild again, same thing. After 30 minutes of crying in the corner like a prom date thats been stood up by the football quarterback, i take a stiff drink, pull on my big boy pants on and tried again. Thats when i noticed it. The damn rba deck bottom contact screws out, and was loose by a quarter turn. I tightened it and all is well

Im ten years older now.

 

[Silver]

So while at work today, my beloved BB starts jumping ohms on the kanger rba. Not just a little, from 0.8 to 2.5 ohms. So obviously the cotton turned into charcoal. Luckily had a semi working backup at work. So 2 hours ago i arrive home in panic station mode stressing about my BB. So i do a thorough cleaning of the whole BB and rba. Rebuild, wick, same result, ohms jumping to high heaven. Rebuild again, same thing. After 30 minutes of crying in the corner like a prom date thats been stood up by the football quarterback, i take a stiff drink, pull on my big boy pants on and tried again. Thats when i noticed it. The damn rba deck bottom contact screws out, and was loose by a quarter turn. I tightened it and all is well

Im ten years older now.

Glad you found the problem @SmokeyJoe
Must have been a huge relief
Just reading your story, I could feel the pain! Not a nice thing when you cant figure out what is going on and something's not working properly.
Hope it works from now

 

[SmokeyJoe]

Glad you found the problem @SmokeyJoe
Must have been a huge relief
Just reading your story, I could feel the pain! Not a nice thing when you cant figure out what is going on and something's not working properly.
Hope it works from now

So far im as happy as a teenager in a porn shop. Been 20 min and no jumping

 

[SmokeyJoe]

The bastard in question

 

[Paul33]

Maybe all you clever BB owners can help me and tell me what’s going on!!!

My issue:

My watts are jumping up and down.

I rebuilt the Insider today with some fused Clapton’s. Ohms came to 0.85. Sometimes they read 0.84. Which is fine. It’s a tiny fluctuation.

But I noticed when I fired the BB the ohms stayed steady but the watts jumped from 18 down to 16 and to everything in between. This can’t be right.

Took everything out. Cleaned. Recoiled. Rewicked. Refilled. Same thing. It’s bizarre.

Is that normal?

 

[TheV]

Maybe all you clever BB owners can help me and tell me what’s going on!!!

My issue:

My watts are jumping up and down.

I rebuilt the Insider today with some fused Clapton’s. Ohms came to 0.85. Sometimes they read 0.84. Which is fine. It’s a tiny fluctuation.

But I noticed when I fired the BB the ohms stayed steady but the watts jumped from 18 down to 16 and to everything in between. This can’t be right.

Took everything out. Cleaned. Recoiled. Rewicked. Refilled. Same thing. It’s bizarre.

Is that normal?

Not sure about the settings on the SXK chip but things to check...
Are you in bypass/mech mode?
Do you have some kind of taste/power adjustment enabled?

The DNA chip on my BB in standard wattage mode, when set to 25W, will start at 0W, jump to 22.5W and then up to 25W ... and stay there.

 

[Paul33]

Not sure about the settings on the SXK chip but things to check...
Are you in bypass/mech mode?
Do you have some kind of taste/power adjustment enabled?

The DNA chip on my BB in standard wattage mode, when set to 25W, will start at 0W, jump to 22.5W and then up to 25W ... and stay there.

I’m on straight forward power mode.

Mine starts at 18w, fires at that for a bit then jumps down to 16 it there abouts then back to 18 then jumps around. Ohms stay steady but I looked again and the volts are jumping around as well. The watts and the volts jump all over the place.

 

[Smoke_A_Llama]

I’m on straight forward power mode.

Mine starts at 18w, fires at that for a bit then jumps down to 16 it there abouts then back to 18 then jumps around. Ohms stay steady but I looked again and the volts are jumping around as well. The watts and the volts jump all over the place.

Perhaps change the battery and see

 

[Paul33]

Perhaps change the battery and see

Popped in a fresh LG and it went from 18w down to 17.2.

I lower the watts to 17 then it stayed put and didn’t move around

Still wonder why it was doing what it was doing but so far it’s a happy camper. Thanks dude.

 

[Raindance]

So while at work today, my beloved BB starts jumping ohms on the kanger rba. Not just a little, from 0.8 to 2.5 ohms. So obviously the cotton turned into charcoal. Luckily had a semi working backup at work. So 2 hours ago i arrive home in panic station mode stressing about my BB. So i do a thorough cleaning of the whole BB and rba. Rebuild, wick, same result, ohms jumping to high heaven. Rebuild again, same thing. After 30 minutes of crying in the corner like a prom date thats been stood up by the football quarterback, i take a stiff drink, pull on my big boy pants on and tried again. Thats when i noticed it. The damn rba deck bottom contact screws out, and was loose by a quarter turn. I tightened it and all is well

Im ten years older now.

Yip, learned that the same way when still using the old Kangerbox and STM. Something to look out for on these RBA's. Same could happen to the other decks that are put together the same way.

Glad to hear its sorted.

Regards

 

[Raindance]

Popped in a fresh LG and it went from 18w down to 17.2.

I lower the watts to 17 then it stayed put and didn’t move around

Still wonder why it was doing what it was doing but so far it’s a happy camper. Thanks dude.

From the below, when firing your battery probably drops below 3.9V resulting a corresponding drop in wattage. This would be true if you are running in bypass mode. Just check? can not explain why that would happen in power mode for the additional available amps should make up for the shortfall in power mode. What wire are you using?

Regards

 

[Paul33]

From the below, when firing your battery probably drops below 3.9V resulting a corresponding drop in wattage. This would be true if you are running in bypass mode. Just check? can not explain why that would happen in power mode for the additional available amps should make up for the shortfall in power mode. What wire are you using?
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Regards

Definitely running in power mode and am using Ni80fused Clapton’s @Raindance

Issue seems to be fine now. Maybe that battery is on its way out.

 

[Smoke_A_Llama]

So while at work today, my beloved BB starts jumping ohms on the kanger rba. Not just a little, from 0.8 to 2.5 ohms. So obviously the cotton turned into charcoal. Luckily had a semi working backup at work. So 2 hours ago i arrive home in panic station mode stressing about my BB. So i do a thorough cleaning of the whole BB and rba. Rebuild, wick, same result, ohms jumping to high heaven. Rebuild again, same thing. After 30 minutes of crying in the corner like a prom date thats been stood up by the football quarterback, i take a stiff drink, pull on my big boy pants on and tried again. Thats when i noticed it. The damn rba deck bottom contact screws out, and was loose by a quarter turn. I tightened it and all is well

Im ten years older now.

Similar thing happened to me yesterday Haha, after wiping the connection down all was well but installed the afc back on the exocet and Bob's your uncle no more condensation on the pin

 

[Paul33]

Similar thing happened to me yesterday Haha, after wiping the connection down all was well but installed the afc back on the exocet and Bob's your uncle no more condensation on the pin

Mines behaving now on this battery and with the slightly lower watts.

I would put the afc back on the Insider to help but it’s so kak I just can’t bring myself to do it.

 

[Silver]

Similar thing happened to me yesterday Haha, after wiping the connection down all was well but installed the afc back on the exocet and Bob's your uncle no more condensation on the pin

I find this interesting @Smoke_A_Llama
When i got my BB , i think i was advised to remove the afc
Maybe it helps with controlling the condensation as you say...

I havent checked but can you make the afc wide open so it vapes the same as when you take the afc out?

@Rob Fisher , what do you think of this?