Alcohol in E-liquids

[Mike]

@ReeZ, sorry I didn't explain myself well enough in the first place I know a chap who if he comes to my house, will insist on me using cookware that has never been used with non-halal items - similarly with cutlery.

I agree 100% in terms of cross contamination in that sense though, as it applies to many other things (vegetarianism, crohns, shellfish allergies etc)

 

[ReeZ]

@ReeZ, sorry I didn't explain myself well enough in the first place I know a chap who if he comes to my house, will insist on me using cookware that has never been used with non-halal items - similarly with cutlery.

I agree 100% in terms of cross contamination in that sense though, as it applies to many other things (vegetarianism, crohns, shellfish allergies etc)

Ah i see what you're saying. Guess it comes down to what you previously said, individuals decide how stringently they live

 

[MOBSTER]

Hi,

I was interested in this topic and actually stumbled upon this thread via a google search and can I just say I was pleasantly surprised to see how helpful, tolerant and just civilised the members here are.

It is so refreshing to see people from different faiths respond to a topic based on a essentially religious concern in such a helpful manner, trying to understand the problem rather than responding in an ignorant and insensitive manner as we so often see is the case these days.

Well done and Thank you!

 

[Rusty]

Hi Guys .

Ok so i am a Muslim and i have been in this debate for a while and iv come to my doubt being cleared . But that's just me .
I vape anything as long its not intoxicating alcohol . I DIY as well so i had to clear this .
Ethyl alcohol is allowed from my understanding. In Islam we are not allowed alcohol if it is derived from Grape or dates or is intoxicating .
I have contacted a Muslim council and they have confirmed this .I then emailed TFA and CAP and they responded saying that The Ethyl alcohol is derived from Corn and is not intoxicating .

From that my doubt was cleared and i Vape away . Please guys , i am not giving you permission to say i said vape it so you'll can . All im saying is that my doubt is cleared from that .... and if that give you peace of mind then go ahead.

 

[Faheem777]

Hi Guys .

Ok so i am a Muslim and i have been in this debate for a while and iv come to my doubt being cleared . But that's just me .
I vape anything as long its not intoxicating alcohol . I DIY as well so i had to clear this .
Ethyl alcohol is allowed from my understanding. In Islam we are not allowed alcohol if it is derived from Grape or dates or is intoxicating .
I have contacted a Muslim council and they have confirmed this .I then emailed TFA and CAP and they responded saying that The Ethyl alcohol is derived from Corn and is not intoxicating .

From that my doubt was cleared and i Vape away . Please guys , i am not giving you permission to say i said vape it so you'll can . All im saying is that my doubt is cleared from that .... and if that give you peace of mind then go ahead.

I've always stayed clear from concentrates containing alcohol. I just haven't had time to investigate it properly. So thanks for the info! Btw, which Muslim council did you contact? Also, do you know if ethyl alcohol the only type of alcohol used in liquid concentrates?

 

[Rusty]

@Faheem777 , i checked with Jamiatul Ulama KZN .
Im sure its just Ethanol . The only reason they would put Alcohol is if they actually creating a Alcohol Profile . If so i think our juice vendors shou stipulte it .

 

[auriga1000]

ethanol also derived from sugar cane. I believe that is also not acceptable.
edit:

Synthetic alcohols and all alcohol besides those which are not extracted from dates and grapes in foods are permissible to use and consume as long as it is not used to intoxicate.

http://daruliftabirmingham.co.uk/ethanol-alcohol-being-extracted-from-sugar-canes/

 

[Rusty]

Sugar cane should not be a problem .

 

[shabbar]

imo , i vape all juices.

the traces of alcohol evaporate by the time the e juice is packaged, and if there are any left it surely will evaporate at the temps we vape at.

but hey thats just me

 

[Silver]

Hi,

I was interested in this topic and actually stumbled upon this thread via a google search and can I just say I was pleasantly surprised to see how helpful, tolerant and just civilised the members here are.

It is so refreshing to see people from different faiths respond to a topic based on a essentially religious concern in such a helpful manner, trying to understand the problem rather than responding in an ignorant and insensitive manner as we so often see is the case these days.

Well done and Thank you!

Welcome to the forum @MOBSTER
Thanks for the kind words.

When you get a chance, feel free to introduce yourself to the community at the following thread:
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/introduce-yourselves.t24/

 

[auriga1000]

Sugar cane should not be a problem .

yep, i updated my post with the edit.

 

[Muchis]

Hi All,

a bit of a thread revival.... I have been doing some research on which concentrates contains alcohol/ethanol.

Flavour Art confirmed that non of their concentrates contain alcohol.

Other flavour houses have also provided feedback.

I'll try to upload them a bit later

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[Muchis]

Liquid barn

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[Muchis]

Inawera

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[Muchis]

TFA state the ingredients on their website and Flavour West have provided an excel spreadsheet which I cannot seem to upload.... Pm and I'll make it available

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[Silver]

Thanks for those updates @Muchis
Im sure it adds value to the ongoing tracking of alcohol in flavours!

The forum software doesnt recognise spreadsheets.
Just to a CTRL C and CTRL V - ie copy the screen from the spreadsheet and just paste into the editor box here.
That should work. It should paste it as an image.
I did that a few times before and it worked from Microsoft Excel

Just use the normal browser, not tapatalk

 

[Muchis]

Cool, will attempt that when I get to me laptop

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[Jean claude Vaaldamme]

 

[Muchis]

Hi


below is the list of our flavors that contain alcohol.

it would be grain alcohol


thanks so much, Linda


Absinthe Flavor **

Absinthe II Flavor

Acai Flavor

Apple (Tart Granny Smith) Flavor **

Berry Mix Flavor

Bitter Nut Extra Flavor

Black Tea Flavor**

Blueberry (Wild) Flavor

Boysenberry Deluxe Flavor

Bubblegum (Fruity) Flavor **

Butterscotch Flavor

Chai Tea Flavor **

Cherry Extract Flavor**

Chicken and Waffle Flavor

Chocolate Flavor

Cinnamon Flavor **

Cinnamon Red Hot Flavor**

Citrus Punch Flavor **

Coffee (Kona) Flavor

Cola Fizz Flavor**

Cola Flavor**

Cola Syrup Flavor**

Cranberry Flavor**

Cranberry Sauce Flavor

Creme de Menthe Flavor **

Cucumber Deluxe Flavor

DK Tobacco Base Flavor **

Dulce de Leche Flavor **

DX Coconut Flavor

DX Peach (Juicy) Flavor

Earl Grey Tea Flavor **

Ginger Ale Flavor **

Gingerbread Extra Ginger Flavor

Gingerbread Flavor **

Greek Yogurt Flavor

Horchata Flavor **

Horchata Smooth Flavor

Horehound Flavor **

Hpno Type Flavor **

Irish Cream Flavor **

Irish Cream II Flavor

Jackfruit Flavor

Kentucky Bourbon Flavor **

Key Lime Flavor **

Lemon (water soluble) Flavor **

Lemon Lime Flavor**

Lemonade Cookie Flavor

M Type Premium Flavor

Maple Flavor**

Milk Chocolate Flavor

Mojito Flavor **

Mojito Havana Flavor

Nectarine Flavor

Orange Cream Bar Flavor

Orange Cream Flavor **

Orange Mandarin Flavor

Peach (Juicy) Flavor

Peppermint Flavor **

Pizza Flavor **

Pomegranate Deluxe

Pumpkin Flavor

Pumpkin Spice Flavor **

Quince Flavor **

Rainbow Drops Flavor (NF)

Rainbow Drops Flavor **

Rainbow Sherbet Flavor

Ripe Banana Flavor **

Root Beer Flavor (PG) **

Root Beer Float Flavor

Ry4 Type Flavor**

Slim Mint Cookie Flavor

Tiramisu Flavor

Tutti-Frutti Flavor **

Violet Candy Flavor **

Waffle Flavor **

Western Flavor

White Chocolate Flavor



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[CMMACKEM]

Is it possible to evaporate off ALL traces of alcohol from concentrates? It's difficult to diy using only flavours that don't have alcohol. I have tons of recipes I want to give a shot but can't because of the alcohol content. Thanks to all the vendors that list this.

I know alcohol has to used to extract certain flavours but if our local vendors made companies like tfa more aware of this they could perhaps work on certain alcohol free flavours where possible.
At the end of the day everyone wants an increase in sales and I'm sure concentrate and juice vendors will see a definite spike in sales on their juices/concentrates previously containing alcohol.

One juice I really want to try is ashybac by @Mike and I appreciate the fact that he has mentioned which of his juices contain alcohol. 'Ashybac alcohol free' and sales will go up guaranteed (counting my orders lol).

I believe that alcohol in ejuice evaporates when it is steeped longer than usual. I could be wrong but I was told by a well known juice maker.