Yor! Just don't attempt a google translate on these articles.... they make even less sense translated 
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It seems you are the only one not getting pics @Oupa? Is it not your corporate firewall? Same issue from home?
from the link
Prateek read claims that vapour from e-cigarettes made MRSA more aggressive. Prateek contacted the study author to Ask for Evidence and received a prompt reply that put media coverage of the research into context.
20/05/2014
"I wanted to know more about some research suggesting that vapour from e-cigarettes makes antibiotic-resistant bacteria more dangerous. The research was covered in several daily newspapers and on The Conversation UK blog, which said that the findings were presented to a conference and were from experiments in cells in a dish. So I asked the author whether it had been published, whether there was any evidence of harm in humans, and about the difference in effect on bacteria between tobacco smoke and e-cigarette vapour.
The author, Dr Crotty from UCSD, replied promptly, saying, "The research is still in the preliminary stages, thus it has not been published. It did undergo peer-review to be accepted for presentation at the ATS conference (American Thoracic Society). I, of course, want to submit it to a journal ASAP."
Dr Crotty went on to say that, because the bacteria were exposed to tobacco vapour in a dish, "A more accurate statement is that the e-cigarette vapor that I tested significantly diminished the ability of human and mouse cells to kill bacteria..." She described the experiments in more detail: "MRSA exposed to e-cigarette vapor was also more aggressive, but not to the same degree.If cigarette smoke made MRSA 100% more successful at causing pneumonia, e-cigarette vapor only increased it 20%."
Although this last point is a nice way of expressing the relative harmfulness of tobacco cigarette smoke and e-cigarette vapour, the harm was to the lungs of mice following exposure to vapour in a dish. The way the research was reported didn't really make this clear."
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Thanks @Stroodlepuff - that study just says - if you get infected by MRSA, you have a bigger change of dying of it than somebody that doesn't Vape. But if you smoke, your chance is even bigger.
So yet again it's a Non-Smoker > Vaper > Smoker scenario.
So, from a harm reduction POV, vaping is still alot better.
Huisgenoot makes is sound like if you vape, you are creating MRSA's - but those are actually created by doctors that over prescribe antibiotics and people that don't complete their antibiotic courses.
Oh well. Scientist makes observation -> Media exagerates findings.
The problem is that there are a lot of poepols that read this cr@p and this kind of cr@p spreads faster than MRSA! Just look at how much attention they're getting right now from this thread.
When I'm at work some pics also don't show, I suspect it's their 'filter' that blocks some links due to non work content
Yup, the statements of how e-cigs are just as dangerous as smoking has just increased exponentially from smokers. Very frustrating.
I think the study that was done is an important one, as one of the end results is that they want to know what in ejuice could be causing the effect. This might end up making ecigs even safer.
My mom bought the You.
Here's the article.
What a load of crap!
Here's the article.
What a load of crap!
Never forget that money is more important than human life!
With this in mind, its easy to understand articles like this. Follow the money, it most probably ends at some or other tobacco or government department. Less tobacco sold, less tax for our "leaders"
I have been in the drone (unmanned aerial vehicle) industry for the past 7 years.
A few months ago, according to news 24 and a few other media houses, drones were made
illegal by the CAA (civil aviation authority) and flying one in a public place was subject to 5 years imprisonment and/or R50K fine.
A meeting was arranged with the head of the CAA, and subsequent personal conversations over coffee, confirmed that the CAA never said anything regarding the illegality of flying drones.
Directly from the horses mouth so to speak.
So I urge everyone to see the media as what it is, just another business that profits off "stories"
The more sensational, the better...
Just my 2 cents
G
With this in mind, its easy to understand articles like this. Follow the money, it most probably ends at some or other tobacco or government department. Less tobacco sold, less tax for our "leaders"
I have been in the drone (unmanned aerial vehicle) industry for the past 7 years.
A few months ago, according to news 24 and a few other media houses, drones were made
illegal by the CAA (civil aviation authority) and flying one in a public place was subject to 5 years imprisonment and/or R50K fine.
A meeting was arranged with the head of the CAA, and subsequent personal conversations over coffee, confirmed that the CAA never said anything regarding the illegality of flying drones.
Directly from the horses mouth so to speak.
So I urge everyone to see the media as what it is, just another business that profits off "stories"
The more sensational, the better...
Just my 2 cents
G
Yep, had something newsworthy happen to me many years ago and I refused to speak to the papers, so they just made up a story and printed thatNever forget that money is more important than human life!
With this in mind, its easy to understand articles like this. Follow the money, it most probably ends at some or other tobacco or government department. Less tobacco sold, less tax for our "leaders"
I have been in the drone (unmanned aerial vehicle) industry for the past 7 years.
A few months ago, according to news 24 and a few other media houses, drones were made
illegal by the CAA (civil aviation authority) and flying one in a public place was subject to 5 years imprisonment and/or R50K fine.
A meeting was arranged with the head of the CAA, and subsequent personal conversations over coffee, confirmed that the CAA never said anything regarding the illegality of flying drones.
Directly from the horses mouth so to speak.
So I urge everyone to see the media as what it is, just another business that profits off "stories"
The more sensational, the better...
Just my 2 cents
G
Yep, had something newsworthy happen to me many years ago and I refused to speak to the papers, so they just made up a story and printed that
What!!!????!!!! Really??? Ow my goodness
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i was just ranting and raving about similar articles floating around on the internet:
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/vaping-not-as-safe.3990/
http://www.ecigssa.co.za/threads/vaping-not-as-safe.3990/
HAHA, that is funny, where did this person who wrote the article do her research!??!?!?! Really, Diethylene Glycol??? where in the hell did she buy that ecig? LOL
Propylene Glycol / Diethylene Glycol... the person probably just noted glycol on her notes, got home and googled glycol, the first glycol result they got was diethylene glycol... LOL, reporters are so full of crap... when they do their research, sure, by all means, but don't just post an article that is full of crap just to meet a deadline!!!
And filters, really, a coil is now a filter? LOL Dalene, .do your research or shut the hell up please, you are embarrassing yourself!!!
Propylene Glycol / Diethylene Glycol... the person probably just noted glycol on her notes, got home and googled glycol, the first glycol result they got was diethylene glycol... LOL, reporters are so full of crap... when they do their research, sure, by all means, but don't just post an article that is full of crap just to meet a deadline!!!
And filters, really, a coil is now a filter? LOL Dalene, .do your research or shut the hell up please, you are embarrassing yourself!!!
Well, I'd rather have vaping kill me than cigarettes
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