The point of a handmade or low volume mod costing more I can understand. All I am saying it perhaps more thought and care can be but into the fabrication of the internals?
I don't get it? HE gear.
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This I can agree, I had a viscous ant spade recently, and was appalled by the internal worksmanship.
However, this comes down to brand specific, where one would skimp on this, another would do their utmost best.
I agree with @Jean claude Vaaldamme OP in that some of the plastic boxes which sell for serious coin have internals which look like they've been knocked up by a metalworking student at school,couple this with pretty rudimentary moulding shaping etc I just don't see how they are worth the money.
When it comes to low volume mostly hand made/finished production in stabilised wood or Juma I do see how the costs can get high very quickly.Ive made some mods and heres an example ; To get from pic one to two takes me anywhere between 8 and 10 hours.To get from pic two to three takes at least 6 hours.Lets add 3 hours for modifying the 510 connector and making and fitting all the components/internals.Total a minimum of 17 hours,now if a plumber or electrician can charge me around R400.00 an hour then surely my labour to do this is worth that,so thats R6800.00,the block of wood is around R800.00 before its left the USA.Leaving aside all the other components,consumables and electricity etc etc.Put a DNA board anywhere near it and thats another R1000.00 + (again before its left the USA).Makes a really nice hand made mod at R10,000.00+ seem pretty fairly priced.
When it comes to low volume mostly hand made/finished production in stabilised wood or Juma I do see how the costs can get high very quickly.Ive made some mods and heres an example ; To get from pic one to two takes me anywhere between 8 and 10 hours.To get from pic two to three takes at least 6 hours.Lets add 3 hours for modifying the 510 connector and making and fitting all the components/internals.Total a minimum of 17 hours,now if a plumber or electrician can charge me around R400.00 an hour then surely my labour to do this is worth that,so thats R6800.00,the block of wood is around R800.00 before its left the USA.Leaving aside all the other components,consumables and electricity etc etc.Put a DNA board anywhere near it and thats another R1000.00 + (again before its left the USA).Makes a really nice hand made mod at R10,000.00+ seem pretty fairly priced.
That is so sad, I had one in my hands and it was stunning but I did not take a look inside. I'm a little disappointed.
My grail must now change
I have the VA Spade regulated (DNA) and the internals are extremely neat. Have not seen how the mech looks like inside.
Thanks @Andre, I was looking at the SX Chip version
You will notice what I speak off when you remoce the coverings of the wire and board. One I speak of was for repairs. After being bought new
To top it off, main problem was that it's internal resistance wasn't correct. Meaning all coils read higher than it should have been.
Ah, no I did not understand you referred to the workmanship with the coverings off. Good to know, but I am certainly not going to remove the coverings from mine
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Yeah if it works, it works. Then rather do not remove anything.Ah, no I did not understand you referred to the workmanship with the coverings off. Good to know, but I am certainly not going to remove the coverings from mine
That all being said, it ome hell of a beautiful mod, photos can never do them justice.
Same argument goes for art some people are willing to pay crazy prices whereas other people see no value in it. I personally didn’t see what’s great about HE until I started using some HE items and have been stuck on it ever since , besides quality there’s just something about something made just for you or having something that only you own and I feel it’s fair to charge a premium for limited edition items because at one point I was willing to pay R4.5k for a paranormal project sub ohm just because it wasn’t available anymore
Well this was specifically for some square sqounkers with cheap internals, but as for art. Last time I checked art prices normally increase the longer you have it, dont have HE vape gear, but do they increase in value too?
Well there are auctions and our favorite people “flippers” so if there’s something that’s high in demand their price goes up due to the limited supply and high demand , like at the moment Frankie’s are in demand and they fetch some heavy prices
Also on that point silver contacts cost a pretty penny because of the price of silver and on that I just feel it’s not fair to say cheap internals but to say cheap looking internals rather
Also on that point silver contacts cost a pretty penny because of the price of silver and on that I just feel it’s not fair to say cheap internals but to say cheap looking internals rather
This got me thinking so I looked up today's silver price.
If the internals have a total mass of 50g and are pure silver (which I doubt) the cost of the silver would only be around $ 25.
Seen a few he mods that’s silver plated but they are also on the cheaper side.
Looking at a mod like the armor the fire pin is solid 99.99 silver contact and I also have the battery pin that’s solid silver. Not to sure on the weight but that was pretty pricey.
You need to consider that there is a cost to molding these parts, wastage, machining , labor and taxes that’s a lot higher than China in these countries.
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I tried a couple of cheap mech Sqounk mods and while they worked alright I found the battery life terrible.
Is this a case of getting what you pay for?
That is probably due to the contacts or voltage drop,as the battery level is lower the drop will feel much worse.Contacts could also be arc-ing and causing carbon build up which also contributes to a crappy experience.
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