Smok H-priv don't abuse protects

[Morne Delport]

Hi Guys

I recently got myself a Smok H-Priv 220w TC. I noticed I've been getting random Atomizer Short warnings. I'm having trouble locating the problem. At first I tough my coil diameter(2.5mm) might have been too big and is touching the walls of my atomizer So I rebuilt a coil of 2mm but I still randomly get the warning. I have a OBS Crius V3. Currently I have a build of 8 wraps Kanthal A-1 2.5 mm in diameter on my crius v3. Does anyone have some advice on locating the problem.

 

[ET]

make sure your tanks 510 pin is not loose

 

[Firefly96]

Hey!

PsyCLown here - posting from my GF's profile.

When I got my Mutation tank I had a similar problem. It turns out the ceramic insulator was cracked and I suspect the e-liquid was allowing power to be transferred through it and therefore creating a short.

I do not know that atomizer you have at all, however perhaps take a look there and see if something similar could be the issue.
Perhaps try with a different tank as well to rule out the H-Priv being the issue. Then perhaps try and use just a straight piece of wire with just the deck to see if it could be the coil shorting somewhere or against something.

Lastly, an issue with the insulator such as the issue I had?

 

[blujeenz]

Hi Guys

I recently got myself a Smok H-Priv 220w TC. I noticed I've been getting random Atomizer Short warnings. I'm having trouble locating the problem. At first I tough my coil diameter(2.5mm) might have been too big and is touching the walls of my atomizer So I rebuilt a coil of 2mm but I still randomly get the warning. I have a OBS Crius V3. Currently I have a build of 8 wraps Kanthal A-1 2.5 mm in diameter on my crius v3. Does anyone have some advice on locating the problem.

Assuming you're using #26 gauge kanthal, 8 wraps at 2.5mm dia should be 1 ohm.
Check it with a meter to make sure, either a multimeter(dmm) or an atomiser resistance checker.
If the atty is good, then you've most probably pushed the Priv's center pin on the 510 conn down too far, usually due to a longer protruding center pin on the Crius.
Check what condition you get if you remove the atty and press the fire button on the mod.
Does it then indicate "short" or "no atomiser"?

 

[Morne Delport]

make sure your tanks 510 pin is not loose

It's tight.

 

[Morne Delport]

Assuming you're using #26 gauge kanthal, 8 wraps at 2.5mm dia should be 1 ohm.
Check it with a meter to make sure, either a multimeter(dmm) or an atomiser resistance checker.
If the atty is good, then you've most probably pushed the Priv's center pin on the 510 conn down too far, usually due to a longer protruding center pin on the Crius.
Check what condition you get if you remove the atty and press the fire button on the mod.
Does it then indicate "short" or "no atomiser"?

It's a dual coil build so it should read at about 0.5 ohms. I think you might be right about the crius pin pushing the privs pin down too far. if I remove the atty It just says check atomizer.

 

[Feliks Karp]

It's a dual coil build so it should read at about 0.5 ohms. I think you might be right about the crius pin pushing the privs pin down too far. if I remove the atty It just says check atomizer.

Check atomizer just means there is no atty attached, have you tried the tank on another mod, there may legit be a short in it.

 

[blujeenz]

It's a dual coil build so it should read at about 0.5 ohms. I think you might be right about the crius pin pushing the privs pin down too far. if I remove the atty It just says check atomizer.

Ok, that probably means you dont have a short on the mod.
You could cut a 0.5 ohm length of kanthal, about 50mm and just loop it from the outer part of the threaded section of the 510 to the inner center pin and then press the fire button... basically like @PsyCLown said via @Firefly96 to check whether its the mod or the atty.

 

[Mozia]

@Morne Delport, I saw the same with mine a few times when I originally got it. Here's a bit of a story.
I originally used a joyetech egrip II which fairly seamlessly picked up any new atty or when I built new coils for my twisted Messes (same with my Pico), with the H-Priv it does not work quite as seamless, and seen that error when I changed coils. I researched it a bit and found that you need to do the fire without atty to get the "no atomizer" and then screw on the new and it'll ask you if it's a new coil and give you the new ohm reading once you select "y". If you haven't yet, I'd also suggest a firmware upgrade.

All of the advice from the other guys on the atty itself is also certainly very valid, just thought I'd share.

Cheers, Moz.

 

[Morne Delport]

Hey!

PsyCLown here - posting from my GF's profile.

When I got my Mutation tank I had a similar problem. It turns out the ceramic insulator was cracked and I suspect the e-liquid was allowing power to be transferred through it and therefore creating a short.

I do not know that atomizer you have at all, however perhaps take a look there and see if something similar could be the issue.
Perhaps try with a different tank as well to rule out the H-Priv being the issue. Then perhaps try and use just a straight piece of wire with just the deck to see if it could be the coil shorting somewhere or against something.

Lastly, an issue with the insulator such as the issue I had?

Im not sure what you mean by using a straight piece of wire

 

[Morne Delport]

@Morne Delport, I saw the same with mine a few times when I originally got it. Here's a bit of a story.
I originally used a joyetech egrip II which fairly seamlessly picked up any new atty or when I built new coils for my twisted Messes (same with my Pico), with the H-Priv it does not work quite as seamless, and seen that error when I changed coils. I researched it a bit and found that you need to do the fire without atty to get the "no atomizer" and then screw on the new and it'll ask you if it's a new coil and give you the new ohm reading once you select "y". If you haven't yet, I'd also suggest a firmware upgrade.

All of the advice from the other guys on the atty itself is also certainly very valid, just thought I'd share.

Cheers, Moz.

My priv has the latest firmware. Stil gives random atomizer short warnings

 

[Morne Delport]

Ok, that probably means you dont have a short on the mod.
You could cut a 0.5 ohm length of kanthal, about 50mm and just loop it from the outer part of the threaded section of the 510 to the inner center pin and then press the fire button... basically like @PsyCLown said via @Firefly96 to check whether its the mod or the atty.

Im not sure how to do that. Is there a tutorial on that?

 

[blujeenz]

Im not sure how to do that. Is there a tutorial on that?

Like such, kanthal is the "red wire", it goes without saying you'll have to hold it on and fire with your other hand.
You're basically simulating an atty resistance with a piece of kanthal.

 

[Morne Delport]

Like such, kanthal is the "red wire", it goes without saying you'll have to hold it on and fire with your other hand.
You're basically simulating an atty resistance with a piece of kanthal.
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Oky so I did it. And it asked me is this a new coil. I said yes it gave me a reading and fires

 

[blujeenz]

Oky so I did it. And it asked me is this a new coil. I said yes it gave me a reading and fires

Cool, hopefully you pulled it off before you got a loop shaped burn.
Pretty much like @Mozia guessed, maybe the smok has a reset so you dont have to fiddle next time.

 

[Morne Delport]

Cool, hopefully you pulled it off before you got a loop shaped burn.
Pretty much like @Mozia guessed, maybe the smok has a reset so you dont have to fiddle next time.

Lol yeah didn't get burned luckily. So would you say that it's my atomizer thats causing the short issues?

 

[blujeenz]

Lol yeah didn't get burned luckily. So would you say that it's my atomizer thats causing the short issues?

Yeah, if its still doing it, or else like @Mozia indicated, the mod occasionally suffers a "brain fart".

 

[Morne Delport]

Yeah, if its still doing it, or else like @Mozia indicated, the mod occasionally suffers a "brain fart".

Do I have to wory about anything blowin up in my face?

 

[blujeenz]

Do I have to wory about anything blowin up in my face?

Nah, shouldnt think so, my Solo mini does the same thing, but its got a reset function.

 

[Morne Delport]

Thanks for all the help. I think i will just get a new atty. What do u think about the ijoy tornado?

 

[blujeenz]

Thanks for all the help. I think i will just get a new atty. What do u think about the ijoy tornado?

Most welcome.
Im on the other side of the cloud spectrum, Kayfun V3 mini is my thing. ie MTL

 

[Morne Delport]

Most welcome.
Im on the other side of the cloud spectrum, Kayfun V3 mini is my thing. ie MTL

Awwh I see

 

[moolies86]

Thanks for all the help. I think i will just get a new atty. What do u think about the ijoy tornado?

I have the tornado nano and it's a great tank,just abit of a guzzler but the flavour and cloud production is really good

 

[herb1]

had similar prob on my Crius (with Evic mini) - check that the wire is reasonable tight when screwing down to posts...worked for me

 

[Imtiaaz]

Assuming you're using #26 gauge kanthal, 8 wraps at 2.5mm dia should be 1 ohm.
Check it with a meter to make sure, either a multimeter(dmm) or an atomiser resistance checker.
If the atty is good, then you've most probably pushed the Priv's center pin on the 510 conn down too far, usually due to a longer protruding center pin on the Crius.
Check what condition you get if you remove the atty and press the fire button on the mod.
Does it then indicate "short" or "no atomiser"?

Hi all, I have the above ohm reader but seem to have a problem getting the tornado nano threads to screw into the 510 of the reader. Did anyone else perhaps experience the same issue? My melo3 tank screws on just fine though.