Yeah they have anti - caking agent. I remember seeing one before and tossing it because of that. Do you know of any other possible substitutes for sucralose? Will upping the EM % be the same?
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Nope, it's not the same - you could try it without sweetener and see, but I wouldn't recommend increasing the EM.
Just checked the equisweet ingredients:
Dextrose, Sucralose (Non-Nutritive Sweetener), Anti-caking Agent.
So I'm assuming this is not safe for vaping? Should I try out TFA sweetener rather?
I would't vape that myself, and it may also affect the flavour which is even worse than popcorn lung
TFA sweetener is the way to go, or CAP super sweet at about half the amount.
I think I'll just get the TFA sweetener and hope for the best.I would't vape that myself, and it may also affect the flavour which is even worse than popcorn lungTFA sweetener is the way to go, or CAP super sweet at about half the amount.
TFA sweetener is the way to go, or CAP super sweet at about half the amount.
Yeah, that's what Wayne used in this recipe, so once you get it you're all set.
1 more question. What's the difference between all these sweeteners and their applications/ usage. I know that EM work excellent in only some mixes and works better to 'complete' a recipe rather than to sweeten. How is TFA sweetener or sucralose or cap super sweet different?
EM is ethyl maltol, not a sweetener per se, but gives an impression of sweetness to CERTAIN flavours.
Sucralose is an artificial sweetener that has the effect of sweetening the entire mix, it acts mainly on the tongue.
TFA is a 10% sucralose solution in PG.
CAP Super sweet is closer to 20% but also contains a tiny bit of citric acid.
Lol thank goodness this came up then. I was considering those tablets to make my own.
I'll just stick to TFA Sweetener then.
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I'll just stick to TFA Sweetener then.
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Thanks for that guide. Exactly what I was looking for.
Blck vapour had some
Can't seem to find it on their site, could you send me a link rather?
Well here we go, my first contribution to the thread *gulp*...
So I have been doing DIY since I started vaping. DIY was always the whole point. I am much more interested in creativity than inhaling vapour to be honest. Getting this mix right has been a journey of around 12 weeks, building it like so many little lego blocks, literally adjusting by half percentages each mix. Investing in atomizer on atomizer. Learning how to taste e-liquid which works differently from anything else, vapers tongue and suggested flavors and a whole bunch of other little challenges... but I did it.
First Kiss:
I wanted a juice that tasted like the first thing to touch my lips every day while watching my toons in my jammies getting ready for school - a sip of warm milk out of a bowl of over sweetened frosted corn flakes. Warm Frostee milk. Hence the name, First Kiss
What I ended up with is a fluffy, warm and rich milky vape with a hint of corn and a perception of loads of frosting. Even makes your lips a little juicy. I will add flavor notes with each concentrate.
TFA Kettle Corn 2%
The corn flake. I got it to try clone a juice by Clouds Of Icarus but the second I tasted it my brain went "corn flakes" and the whole idea was born. Can also be thought of as a bland corn chip vibe. Not perfect but it works in here.
CAP NY Cheesecake 2.5%
WHUT? Bear with me here. At low concentrations it is quite like a meringue in texture. I remembered reading about another mixologist that uses meringue to copy frosting. So this is exactly what it does in this recipe along with adding a good measure of fluffy texture and that nice almost sticky lip feel. Lovely.
TFA Bavarian Cream 2%
Because am I seriously making a milky vape without it? Nope.
TFA Malted Milk 1.5%
Literally just rounding out the TFA Dairy. Was a bit disappointed with the latter but the two work well together
TFA Dairy 2.5%
Going for maximum milk but more than this tasted like mild pepper. Idk it is weird to work with. Things might get even better with a different concentrate but budget and all...
TFA Vanilla Swirl 2%
Acts as the glue to hold this all together. This actually ended up in this mix by accident, making a few testers I dropped into the wrong bottle... This really was a happy accident. Where the juice was OK before this just took it to where I like it. I will keep playing with it in milky mixes. Hasnt worked out well for me in other places has this tendency to mute other notes but it works very well here.
Sucralose 1.25%
EDIT - TFA Sweetener so technically 0.125 percent sucralose in the mix.
This is up to taste I guess. But without some Sucralose the mix has a very dry mouth feel. Some advice gotten from @Papa_Lazarou had me adding little bits until I was happy with the mouth feel. Much appreciation. That was the final ticket to turn a fun project into an ADV.
NOT shake and vape. I give it 7 days at a controlled 28 degrees with the odd shake, until I get a golden hue, then leave it in my cold cupboard another few days. Vape it too soon and it is quite sweet with no discernible notes really. Still nice but like a very cool candy floss flavour.
It is a very subtle juice so give it some time. If it sucks you can give me a smack at Vapecon looool... I can take it.
So I have been doing DIY since I started vaping. DIY was always the whole point. I am much more interested in creativity than inhaling vapour to be honest. Getting this mix right has been a journey of around 12 weeks, building it like so many little lego blocks, literally adjusting by half percentages each mix. Investing in atomizer on atomizer. Learning how to taste e-liquid which works differently from anything else, vapers tongue and suggested flavors and a whole bunch of other little challenges... but I did it.
First Kiss:
I wanted a juice that tasted like the first thing to touch my lips every day while watching my toons in my jammies getting ready for school - a sip of warm milk out of a bowl of over sweetened frosted corn flakes. Warm Frostee milk. Hence the name, First Kiss
What I ended up with is a fluffy, warm and rich milky vape with a hint of corn and a perception of loads of frosting. Even makes your lips a little juicy. I will add flavor notes with each concentrate.
TFA Kettle Corn 2%
The corn flake. I got it to try clone a juice by Clouds Of Icarus but the second I tasted it my brain went "corn flakes" and the whole idea was born. Can also be thought of as a bland corn chip vibe. Not perfect but it works in here.
CAP NY Cheesecake 2.5%
WHUT? Bear with me here. At low concentrations it is quite like a meringue in texture. I remembered reading about another mixologist that uses meringue to copy frosting. So this is exactly what it does in this recipe along with adding a good measure of fluffy texture and that nice almost sticky lip feel. Lovely.
TFA Bavarian Cream 2%
Because am I seriously making a milky vape without it? Nope.
TFA Malted Milk 1.5%
Literally just rounding out the TFA Dairy. Was a bit disappointed with the latter but the two work well together
TFA Dairy 2.5%
Going for maximum milk but more than this tasted like mild pepper. Idk it is weird to work with. Things might get even better with a different concentrate but budget and all...
TFA Vanilla Swirl 2%
Acts as the glue to hold this all together. This actually ended up in this mix by accident, making a few testers I dropped into the wrong bottle... This really was a happy accident. Where the juice was OK before this just took it to where I like it. I will keep playing with it in milky mixes. Hasnt worked out well for me in other places has this tendency to mute other notes but it works very well here.
Sucralose 1.25%
EDIT - TFA Sweetener so technically 0.125 percent sucralose in the mix.
This is up to taste I guess. But without some Sucralose the mix has a very dry mouth feel. Some advice gotten from @Papa_Lazarou had me adding little bits until I was happy with the mouth feel. Much appreciation. That was the final ticket to turn a fun project into an ADV.
NOT shake and vape. I give it 7 days at a controlled 28 degrees with the odd shake, until I get a golden hue, then leave it in my cold cupboard another few days. Vape it too soon and it is quite sweet with no discernible notes really. Still nice but like a very cool candy floss flavour.
It is a very subtle juice so give it some time. If it sucks you can give me a smack at Vapecon looool... I can take it.
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I'm surprised, and quite thrilled with how this turned out.
For once, I will not be tweaking an original recipe.
A mild tobacco with a kiss from the baker (she's a pretty baker to)
Van Gogh
FA Virginia 2%
FA Perique Black 0.35%
FA Oak 0.25%
Acetyl Pyraza....0.25%
FA Clove 0.25%
TFA Graham Cracker 1%
(This is my default mild/light Virginia tobacco base)
Then add:
TFA Vanilla Swirl 2%
INW Biscuit 0.75%
I have been working on the Tobacco base for quite some time. I was semi happy with it, but it was always not nicely rounded off.
I then thought of making Vanilla tobacco, so added the Swirl. The result was not a Vanilla bac, but it rounded my base off nicely. So I happily vaped 60mls just like that.
Only thing was, it gave me a little more throat hit than I like, so I decided to add the INW Biscuit, knowing its buttery goodness would probably do the trick.
Steeped it, vaped it and was completely happy FOR ONCE with my creation.
The sun shines on every dogs' ass someday.
For once, I will not be tweaking an original recipe.
A mild tobacco with a kiss from the baker (she's a pretty baker to)
Van Gogh
FA Virginia 2%
FA Perique Black 0.35%
FA Oak 0.25%
Acetyl Pyraza....0.25%
FA Clove 0.25%
TFA Graham Cracker 1%
(This is my default mild/light Virginia tobacco base)
Then add:
TFA Vanilla Swirl 2%
INW Biscuit 0.75%
I have been working on the Tobacco base for quite some time. I was semi happy with it, but it was always not nicely rounded off.
I then thought of making Vanilla tobacco, so added the Swirl. The result was not a Vanilla bac, but it rounded my base off nicely. So I happily vaped 60mls just like that.
Only thing was, it gave me a little more throat hit than I like, so I decided to add the INW Biscuit, knowing its buttery goodness would probably do the trick.
Steeped it, vaped it and was completely happy FOR ONCE with my creation.
The sun shines on every dogs' ass someday.
Well here we go, my first contribution to the thread *gulp*...
So I have been doing DIY since I started vaping. DIY was always the whole point. I am much more interested in creativity than inhaling vapour to be honest. Getting this mix right has been a journey of around 12 weeks, building it like so many little lego blocks, literally adjusting by half percentages each mix. Investing in atomizer on atomizer. Learning how to taste e-liquid which works differently from anything else, vapers tongue and suggested flavors and a whole bunch of other little challenges... but I did it.
First Kiss:
I wanted a juice that tasted like the first thing to touch my lips every day while watching my toons in my jammies getting ready for school - a sip of warm milk out of a bowl of over sweetened frosted corn flakes. Warm Frostee milk. Hence the name, First Kiss
What I ended up with is a fluffy, warm and rich milky vape with a hint of corn and a perception of loads of frosting. Even makes your lips a little juicy. I will add flavor notes with each concentrate.
TFA Kettle Corn 2%
The corn flake. I got it to try clone a juice by Clouds Of Icarus but the second I tasted it my brain went "corn flakes" and the whole idea was born. Can also be thought of as a bland corn chip vibe. Not perfect but it works in here.
CAP NY Cheesecake 2.5%
WHUT? Bear with me here. At low concentrations it is quite like a meringue in texture. I remembered reading about another mixologist that uses meringue to copy frosting. So this is exactly what it does in this recipe along with adding a good measure of fluffy texture and that nice almost sticky lip feel. Lovely.
TFA Bavarian Cream 2%
Because am I seriously making a milky vape without it? Nope.
TFA Malted Milk 1.5%
Literally just rounding out the TFA Dairy. Was a bit disappointed with the latter but the two work well together
TFA Dairy 2.5%
Going for maximum milk but more than this tasted like mild pepper. Idk it is weird to work with. Things might get even better with a different concentrate but budget and all...
TFA Vanilla Swirl 2%
Acts as the glue to hold this all together. This actually ended up in this mix by accident, making a few testers I dropped into the wrong bottle... This really was a happy accident. Where the juice was OK before this just took it to where I like it. I will keep playing with it in milky mixes. Hasnt worked out well for me in other places has this tendency to mute other notes but it works very well here.
Sucralose 1.25%
This is up to taste I guess. But without some Sucralose the mix has a very dry mouth feel. Some advice gotten from @Papa_Lazarou had me adding little bits until I was happy with the mouth feel. Much appreciation. That was the final ticket to turn a fun project into an ADV.
NOT shake and vape. I give it 7 days at a controlled 28 degrees with the odd shake, until I get a golden hue, then leave it in my cold cupboard another few days. Vape it too soon and it is quite sweet with no discernible notes really. Still nice but like a very cool candy floss flavour.
It is a very subtle juice so give it some time. If it sucks you can give me a smack at Vapecon looool... I can take it.
Now this is one recipe I will enjoy too. Just need to add Kettle born to my growing concentrate cart blck vapour
My cart with them is looking ridiculous loooool... been adding and adding since yesterday. I will go agonize over what to leave out later. Going to be tough their prices got me excitedNow this is one recipe I will enjoy too. Just need to add Kettle born to my growing concentrate cart blck vapour
Same here, I just did a trimming of the fat as I have those flavours albeit by another house. The miser in me dictates that its redundant having 2 of the same concentrate so I'm only allowed to replace it once it's close to finish. I'm just weird like that
Hey guys
Just want to find out if any of you purchased concentrates from www.blckvapour.co.za?
Just find its kind of weird that their prices are so reasonable
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Just want to find out if any of you purchased concentrates from www.blckvapour.co.za?
Just find its kind of weird that their prices are so reasonable
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I did on vryday should get shipping Monday. Is it not opening specials as well. Along as its tfa whats the problem
Has anyone experimented with guava? I'm thinking of pairing it with cream or custard...
Only used CAP Sweet Guava with CAP Yellow Peach, which I really like. But everything else I've tried with Guava was a fail.
It's quite difficult to work with.
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Which berries go well with TFA banana cream? I'm thinking of TFA banana cream with Cap sweet strawberry but need a nice berry finish. What do you guys suggest ?
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