DIY Tobacco Recipes

[Viper_SA]

Just mixed this, not sure how it will steep, but it's awesome right now.

Black Valentine:

INW Kent tobacco - 1.5%
FW Dark Chocolate - 3%
FA Tiramisu - 0.5%

 

[Huffapuff]

Just mixed this, not sure how it will steep, but it's awesome right now.

Black Valentine:

INW Kent tobacco - 1.5%
FW Dark Chocolate - 3%
FA Tiramisu - 0.5%

This looks promising - I think the Tiramisu will work well, dessertish without being sweet and that coffee undertone. Please let us know how it develops.

 

[Viracocha]

You guys are evil, I thought I'm gonna stick to 20 odd flavours, but all these awesome recipes, I just want to try them all...

 

[GregF]

@Andre you were looking for this on the Bora Bora additions forum.
Here we go....

Western Tobacco
Tobacco (CLY) - 2.5%
Oak (FA) - 1%
Butterscotch (CLY) - 1%
Anise (FW) - 0.1%
Western (TFA) - 1.5%
Custard (CLY) - 1%
Cream (CLY) - 1%
MTS Vape Wizard (FA) - 0.5%

I don't know if you want the anise in there at 0.1%. For me anything more than that and it is too much. Without it I feel it needs it so it must make a difference.
I only added the MTS to the last bottle I made and it does make a difference.
Without it I could taste the different individual ingredients like the cream and custard. Probably because I know it is there but with the MTS it tends to smooth it all out, and believe it or not I also felt it gave it more body and mouth full effect. Will be trying the MTS in other recipes....some time.....
The only reason I went with CLY cream and custard was because I didn't have FA vienna cream at the time but this seems to work so I have not tried the vienna cream yet.
The Clyrolinx Tobacco is a different tobacco taste, not like FA Cuban Supreme or a lot of other tobacco concentrates where can relate the taste to a cigarette or cigar type flavour. It is somewhat dry and quite nutty, probably somewhere in the vicinity of FW 555 tobacco.
The Western in here at 1.5% is not overpowering for me. It adds that nice ashy tobacco taste.

While we are on the TFA Western subject I have been adding a drop or two to a tank of other Tobacco recipes from here and all have been nice.

And on a side not I have also found the following works really really well.

Creamy Coconut Tobacco (not Hic's but we stole ideas from him. On here somewhere) OR
Hic's Light American Cig replacement OR
Hic's Bora Bora - 50%
Hic's Mendis Coconut Brandy - 50%

One of the three Hic's tobacco as above - 80%
Hic's Black Barrel Whiskey Mac - 20%

 

[Andre]

@Andre you were looking for this on the Bora Bora additions forum.
Here we go....

Western Tobacco
Tobacco (CLY) - 2.5%
Oak (FA) - 1%
Butterscotch (CLY) - 1%
Anise (FW) - 0.1%
Western (TFA) - 1.5%
Custard (CLY) - 1%
Cream (CLY) - 1%
MTS Vape Wizard (FA) - 0.5%

I don't know if you want the anise in there at 0.1%. For me anything more than that and it is too much. Without it I feel it needs it so it must make a difference.
I only added the MTS to the last bottle I made and it does make a difference.
Without it I could taste the different individual ingredients like the cream and custard. Probably because I know it is there but with the MTS it tends to smooth it all out, and believe it or not I also felt it gave it more body and mouth full effect. Will be trying the MTS in other recipes....some time.....
The only reason I went with CLY cream and custard was because I didn't have FA vienna cream at the time but this seems to work so I have not tried the vienna cream yet.
The Clyrolinx Tobacco is a different tobacco taste, not like FA Cuban Supreme or a lot of other tobacco concentrates where can relate the taste to a cigarette or cigar type flavour. It is somewhat dry and quite nutty, probably somewhere in the vicinity of FW 555 tobacco.
The Western in here at 1.5% is not overpowering for me. It adds that nice ashy tobacco taste.

While we are on the TFA Western subject I have been adding a drop or two to a tank of other Tobacco recipes from here and all have been nice.

And on a side not I have also found the following works really really well.

Hic's Creamy Coconut Tobacco OR
Hic's Light American Cig replacement OR
Hic's Bora Bora - 50%
Hic's Mendis Coconut Brandy - 50%

One of the three Hic's tobacco as above - 80%
Hic's Black Barrel Whiskey Mac - 20%

Thanks, saw this one in the Index to the correct thread, but did not look further as I saw it had CLY concentrates in. I do not have CLY concentrates and after your report in another thread that they use Ethyl Di Glycol as a carrier and have oily extracts I am very wary.

You are very creative in experimenting with mixes of different juices. I am too afraid I shall bugger up the juice.

 

[GregF]

I told Geoff from Clyrolinx that I created a bit of a sh1t storm after I posted his reply.
He said he is going to talk to the lab and get back to me with some answers...lets see.
Got me worried as well.
Mind you I used to smoke 40+ cigarettes a day for many many years so I reckon if that didn't kill me then I can take my chances with the EDG.

 

[Jono90]

@Viper_SA
your black valentine recipe looks good. is the tobacco in the background? or more a main note?
also whats everybodys opinions on MTS Vape Wizard? from what i see it seems a must for most tobacco vapes

 

[GregF]

@Viper_SA do you have a favorite TFA Western recipe?

 

[Viper_SA]

@Viper_SA
your black valentine recipe looks good. is the tobacco in the background? or more a main note?
also whats everybodys opinions on MTS Vape Wizard? from what i see it seems a must for most tobacco vapes

More in the background I would say. The coffee in the Kent tobacco is in the forefront, with very slight liquorice and caramel tones. The dark chocolate also comes through as a background note, and not everytime. Sort of like Klipdrift XO Coffee/Choc infused brandy. Sometimes you get coffee, sometimes choc, and other times a mix. I think I prefer it without tbe Tiramisu though.

 

[Viper_SA]

@Viper_SA do you have a favorite TFA Western recipe?

So far I have only really used it as a main ingredients in my Bohannon's Boots recipe.

 

[Andre]

also whats everybodys opinions on MTS Vape Wizard? from what i see it seems a must for most tobacco vapes

Early days for me, but initial impressions are that MTS makes it too smooth for me - sort of losing the distinctiveness of the mix. It takes away a lot of the sour perception, which is important in tobacco mixes imo. Also one loses throat hit, if that is of importance to you. That said, from recipes all over it seems to be becoming very popular. Personally, at this stage, I try to stay away for additives unless really necessary, and, then, as little as possible.

 

[Viper_SA]

For me MTS Vape Wizard is like garlic in food. Doesn't really have a flavor of it's own, but brings different components together well. Sometimes for instance you want to taste chilli, as in chilli bites, other times, you just want some beat and spicyness without actually tasting the chilli as a separate component. That is when I use MTS. Life TFA Turkish, I like the taste, but it's just a tad too overpowering, and lowering the % takes away from the background notes it provides. The MTS just rounds off the harsher edges. Kind ofnlike TFA Smooth is supposed to, but without adding a chlorine taste to a juice. In veneral I also don't use sweeteners, sours, koolada etc, but this one I like.

 

[Andre]

Gitanes homage
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/598996/Gitanes+homage

2% Burley (FA)
2.5% Caramel (FA)
4% Catalan Cream (FA)
1% Holiday Spice (TPA)
1% MTS Vape Wizard (FA)
2% Toasted Almond (TPA)
3% Western (TPA)

Flavor total: 15.5%
Western is a bit of a shock. It's a dead ringer for Gitanes. Among the poseurs that I used to hang with in the 80s you were either a Left Bank Gitanes kinda guy or a Gauloises artiste. I was the latter, but for any of you out who were the former, this will bring back the those heady days.

For those of you that don't know the flavour, it is in your face tobacco almost verging on a cigar, and ashy with a decent throat hit. I added the cream to lift it and the caramel, nutmeg (Holiday Spice) and almond to give it lesser notes and complexity. The burley is there purely to drag the mix towards a more mainstream tobacco flavour.

Steep: 3-4 weeks.

@Viper_SA - it goes very nicely with a bog wet single malt, late at night.

@Viper_SA do you have a favorite TFA Western recipe?

This one has TFA Western, @GregF. Just cracked my bottle a few minutes ago (mixed 13/7/2016). My initial impressions:- I like it a lot and will certainly mix up a bigger batch. The Holiday Spice and Almond are barely noticeable on the exhale and really adds a lot of interest. I pick up some lovely citrus notes in the background? Definitely more towards cigar/cigarette than pipe tobacco. Almost too smooth for me - might go down on or leave out the MTS next time, depending on how it tastes over a longer period.
Thank you for the recipe @Patrick. For sure different to the tobacco recipes I have tried so far, which is great as variety is the spice of life!

 

[Viper_SA]

I sure hope people find my recipes better than my typing skills

 

[GregF]

This one has TFA Western, @GregF. Just cracked my bottle a few minutes ago (mixed 13/7/2016). My initial impressions:- I like it a lot and will certainly mix up a bigger batch. The Holiday Spice and Almond are barely noticeable on the exhale and really adds a lot of interest. I pick up some lovely citrus notes in the background? Definitely more towards cigar/cigarette than pipe tobacco. Almost too smooth for me - might go down on or leave out the MTS next time, depending on how it tastes over a longer period.
Thank you for the recipe @Patrick. For sure different to the tobacco recipes I have tried so far, which is great as variety is the spice of life!

Nice, think I need to try this. Only thing is no holiday spice....
Aaaaah more concentrates....no no leave it out....yip im going to leave it out........
Not a big nutmeg fan anyway....there you go, justified!

 

[Viper_SA]

Grandpa's Pear:
Fairly light and mild tobacco with great pear notes coming through.

 

[Jono90]

I decided to try out a few more concentrates out and mts wizard.
i tried out TFA western has become my new favourite. decided to buy more like 10 mins after trying it out. reminds of lucky strike.
then i tried out FA cigar passion and so far MEH! its ok nothing special and doesnt remind me of a cigar but maybe it needs steeping.
i then threw some MTS vape wizard in my regular cubano single mix and i find it completely removed the main note that i normally get, Added 0.5%
it did bring the background notes out more but the main flavor that i normally enjoy was extremely muted.it seems like its only something for toning a liquid down. almost made a huge batch with it. thank god i tried a small one first.
but so far for me if you looking for a cigar flavor i would recommend TFA Cubano and INW Cuba, Tuscan reverse was alright also
As far as Flavor Art go it seems to me that alot of there Tobacco flavors are too amazing as i also tried burley found it weak and cuban supreme and it had a candy floss taste to it not what i was hoping for.
I would love to make a complex Cigar mix but my own ideas have just lead to an expensive drain cleaner. so im scared to mix flavors without a recipe to follow.

 

[Andre]

I decided to try out a few more concentrates out and mts wizard.
i tried out TFA western has become my new favourite. decided to buy more like 10 mins after trying it out. reminds of lucky strike.
then i tried out FA cigar passion and so far MEH! its ok nothing special and doesnt remind me of a cigar but maybe it needs steeping.
i then threw some MTS vape wizard in my regular cubano single mix and i find it completely removed the main note that i normally get, Added 0.5%
it did bring the background notes out more but the main flavor that i normally enjoy was extremely muted.it seems like its only something for toning a liquid down. almost made a huge batch with it. thank god i tried a small one first.
but so far for me if you looking for a cigar flavor i would recommend TFA Cubano and INW Cuba, Tuscan reverse was alright also
As far as Flavor Art go it seems to me that alot of there Tobacco flavors are too amazing as i also tried burley found it weak and cuban supreme and it had a candy floss taste to it not what i was hoping for.
I would love to make a complex Cigar mix but my own ideas have just lead to an expensive drain cleaner. so im scared to mix flavors without a recipe to follow.

Thank you for your impressions on MTS, confirms my suspicions.

On your recommendation, I tried TFA Cubano as a single mix and was quite impressed. Nice cigar taste and I get notes of Marzipan and Cherry sour with a floral touch on the exhale. Not the full feel of more complex mixes for me, but good nonetheless.

I have mixed up Cigar Passion, Tuscan Reserve and Maxx Blend with some Black Fire. Steeping. Shall let you have my impressions.

At what percentage did you mix up TFA Western? I tried @Patrick's Gitanes Homage recipe above, which has Western as one of the ingredients and liked it a lot.

 

[Jono90]

@Andre
Glad you enjoy Cubano. i wonder what it would work with? im looking for something to enhance its flavor without changing it too much
I mixed Western at 5% max VG. hasnt steeped yet but im pretty happy with the flavour.
I mix alot of my tobacco flavors at 5% as a starting point and then dilute if i pick up unwanted notes

 

[Andre]

@Andre
Glad you enjoy Cubano. i wonder what it would work with? im looking for something to enhance its flavor without changing it too much
I mixed Western at 5% max VG. hasnt steeped yet but im pretty happy with the flavour.
I mix alot of my tobacco flavors at 5% as a starting point and then dilute if i pick up unwanted notes

Thanks.
I would try Cubano with FA Dark Vapure or FA Perique Black.

 

[Jono90]

Great. ill keep that in mind on my next mix

 

[incredible_hullk]

@Andre
Glad you enjoy Cubano. i wonder what it would work with? im looking for something to enhance its flavor without changing it too much
I mixed Western at 5% max VG. hasnt steeped yet but im pretty happy with the flavour.
I mix alot of my tobacco flavors at 5% as a starting point and then dilute if i pick up unwanted notes

i have used 3% tfa cubano type with 1.5% tfa western flavour and 2% tfa black cherry. 2 days post steeping and it seems really good but will give more time. the cubano flavour is still much the stronger right now

 

[incredible_hullk]

i have used 3% tfa cubano type with 1.5% tfa western flavour and 2% tfa blackberry. 2 post steeping and it seems really good but will give more time. the cubano flavour is still much the stronger right now

sorry 2% tfa black cherry not blackberry

 

[Viper_SA]

a bit curious as to whether or not anyone has mixed any of my recipes yet?

 

[rogue zombie]

Thank you for your impressions on MTS, confirms my suspicions.

On your recommendation, I tried TFA Cubano as a single mix and was quite impressed. Nice cigar taste and I get notes of Marzipan and Cherry sour with a floral touch on the exhale. Not the full feel of more complex mixes for me, but good nonetheless.

I have mixed up Cigar Passion, Tuscan Reserve and Maxx Blend with some Black Fire. Steeping. Shall let you have my impressions.

At what percentage did you mix up TFA Western? I tried @Patrick's Gitanes Homage recipe above, which has Western as one of the ingredients and liked it a lot.

What percentage do you guys mix Cubano at?

I've never won with it.