What's the best MTL tank?

@Rob Fisher has a philosophy that I admire... If it keeps you off the stinkies then the price becomes irrelevant. It's a matter of personal preference. Ammit wins because it's a joke to build and wick and the airflow can be fine tuned without a screwdriver.
Thats a good philosophy and I agree!
So I cant find the Siren2 22mm or Kayfun anywhere so then I guess im getting the ammit mtl and the dvarw dl?
 
Thats a good philosophy and I agree!
So I cant find the Siren2 22mm or Kayfun anywhere so then I guess im getting the ammit mtl and the dvarw dl?

Dvarw MTL is really good too but the process of getting it to that level is a whole different ball game. The airflow cant be adjusted on the fly. It requires you to remove the wick and coil that took all but 20 mins to get seated then remove the airflow insert and put it another one then rebuild then repeat the process till you've dialed it in. Once its dialed in the flavor is unparalleled. Mine sits on my office desk dressed in an e-pipe, lubricated with 25mg Havana Nights and accessorizes with Nescafe Gold
 
Ammit MTL FTW

I always got gurgling on the siren but flavour was better
 
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Tried and tested many, MTL only.

Nautilus Mini - Great (plus you can buy coils on Aliexpress), I still have one, plus another one brand new in the box.
Vaporesso Guardian works well

The best tank for me so far, Savour 22mm MTL Rta, it wins hands down, in fact so good I have two of them! I find building coils and wicking a real PITA, but much cheaper than commercial coils. I mix my own juice using 75/25 VG/PG premix, with Cherry Blaze flavour only, then that I mix 50/50 with Liqua Traditional tobacco, guess I must just change my PG/VG mix from start.

For extras and emergencies, don't laugh now, Twisp Cue works a treat. I always have one close by with spare pods, it is just so convenient. (But not good enough to replace my Savour. For example I am at an event tomorrow where my regular tank is going to be difficult to take, so I will leave that in the car and take the Cue for the morning, no mess no fuss.

Then the Simple EX Squonk is really good as well. (Have one here but currently filled with Sativa/Indica Hybrid from MedicalMJ (But I have to admit, the oil in there does nothing for me!)

I have a whole stack of BVC coils sitting idle, so about to buy a Nautilus AIO, purely because I have enough coils for more than a year.
Then after reading, I am keen on getting the Smok Nord too now :)

Edit, forgot about the Ammit, have one too, brand new but I do not like it. Guess I must rather sell it sometime.
 
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As mentioned above I was keen on getting the Nord, did that last week of December.

So now I have gone full circle, started off in 2012 with those ridiculous and leaky pen devices, went to the Nautilus and few others, eventually entered the build space with the Savour, liked that so much I have two off them, then got a bit tired of the build and wicking business, started looking for a decent pod to get back to basics. Started off using Liqua juice, used that for probably 4-5 years, then started mixing my own.

Did a lot of reading, here, Reddit and all over the place, 3 pods stood out.
Smok Nord, Smok RPM40 and the Caliburn. There were some positives and negatives about them all, and depending on the review each of them a winner.

I decided on the Nord, went to buy it, shop almost convinced me that the Caliburn and RPM40 is better, but I decided to stick to my own research and bought the Nord.

I have not touched my other vape in 2 weeks, coil is now on 2 weeks 2 days (but it is time to change), I have gone back to using Liqua juice, now more messy mixing (and screwing it up). I have the 1.4 coils in.

So far I have found two negatives:
1) Power button is not flush and stands out, you press it by accident all the time.
2) Battery life could be better, but at R500 it is actually worth while just getting a second one!

So if you are looking for a no mess no fuss MTL device, have a good look at the Nord!
 
As mentioned above I was keen on getting the Nord, did that last week of December.

So now I have gone full circle, started off in 2012 with those ridiculous and leaky pen devices, went to the Nautilus and few others, eventually entered the build space with the Savour, liked that so much I have two off them, then got a bit tired of the build and wicking business, started looking for a decent pod to get back to basics. Started off using Liqua juice, used that for probably 4-5 years, then started mixing my own.

Did a lot of reading, here, Reddit and all over the place, 3 pods stood out.
Smok Nord, Smok RPM40 and the Caliburn. There were some positives and negatives about them all, and depending on the review each of them a winner.

I decided on the Nord, went to buy it, shop almost convinced me that the Caliburn and RPM40 is better, but I decided to stick to my own research and bought the Nord.

I have not touched my other vape in 2 weeks, coil is now on 2 weeks 2 days (but it is time to change), I have gone back to using Liqua juice, now more messy mixing (and screwing it up). I have the 1.4 coils in.

So far I have found two negatives:
1) Power button is not flush and stands out, you press it by accident all the time.
2) Battery life could be better, but at R500 it is actually worth while just getting a second one!

So if you are looking for a no mess no fuss MTL device, have a good look at the Nord!
Glad it has worked out for you and that is the most important thing for you personally but you can get the exact same vape, with the same Nord coils using the Nord pod with the RPM. The only difference is a much better regulated device and much better battery life when you add to that you also get the RPM pod (i prefer the RPM coils) then for others reading i found the RPM40 much better!
 
Glad it has worked out for you and that is the most important thing for you personally but you can get the exact same vape, with the same Nord coils using the Nord pod with the RPM. The only difference is a much better regulated device and much better battery life when you add to that you also get the RPM pod (i prefer the RPM coils) then for others reading i found the RPM40 much better!

And if you wait untill next month the RPM80 gets released. With what looks like a better pod and you can use 18650's.
 
And if you wait untill next month the RPM80 gets released. With what looks like a better pod and you can use 18650's.
Yeah devices keep rolling out continuously with the pod mods as soon as the RPM80 is released no doubt better devices will be on the Horizon!
 
Power button is not flush and stands out, you press it by accident all the time.
I'm a noob, so excuse me if I don't get this correct.

I also used the Smok Nord for 5 months. One of the function to render the "on" button inactive was to press it x5. This way you won't have any accidental firing.
 
I'm a noob, so excuse me if I don't get this correct.

I also used the Smok Nord for 5 months. One of the function to render the "on" button inactive was to press it x5. This way you won't have any accidental firing.

Yeah I know, but it is a pain to do that!
 
Glad it has worked out for you and that is the most important thing for you personally but you can get the exact same vape, with the same Nord coils using the Nord pod with the RPM. The only difference is a much better regulated device and much better battery life when you add to that you also get the RPM pod (i prefer the RPM coils) then for others reading i found the RPM40 much better!

The only reason for not buying the RPM40 is the size of the unit, battery life on the Nord is pretty crappy, but it is so nice and stealthy otherwise, but, I might still get the RPM as well, who knows!
 
The only reason for not buying the RPM40 is the size of the unit, battery life on the Nord is pretty crappy, but it is so nice and stealthy otherwise, but, I might still get the RPM as well, who knows!
If you’re opting for a pod mod rather go for the Vinci X. The size difference is not so much but you get the advantages of an external 18650.
 
If you’re opting for a pod mod rather go for the Vinci X. The size difference is not so much but you get the advantages of an external 18650.
I found the RPM40 better than the Vinci so i expect the RPM 80Pro will be better than the Vinci X!
 
Being able to use a 18650 battery is definitely something to look at, but all depends on availability of coils, I see they only do a 1.2 ceramic, nothing higher.
 
Guess it is time for an update!

So it is now 5 months later. During the past 5 months, I have not rolled a coil or wicked anything.

I did buy a Nord2, and then went and bought a 2nd Nord 2. I did consider the RPM40 or 80, but they are much bulkier and an odd shape being square, the Nord2 is slightly bigger than the Nord1 and still very stealthy. Gone are the days of wearing a belt because I am carrying my vape in my pocket.

Battery life is about a day, but I am now in a habit of just switching them out leaving one on the charger, so at any given time I have a fully charged spare.

I found on the Nord1 the one negative is the rubber seal where you will the pod, it is clearly not made to last expect to replace a pod at least once a month. On the Nord2 that is substantially better, my first one broke yesterday after being in use since about Feb so I cannot complain about that.

Juice, I still found that it likes thinner juice like the Liqua brands, but at the moment since I cannot buy any I am using other brands, not the same though.

Coils last me at least 2 weeks, closer to 3 weeks. The best coils for me are the 1.4 regular coils, I tried the ceramic, did not enjoy it at all.

From a costing viewpoint, I think this device delivers.
About R600 for a Nord2 with a coil.
Spare coils R60
Spare pods R60.

I guess it is costing me R100pm for coils, and probably R20pm for pods, plus obviously juice. If you mix yourself then the total cost will be very low.

Time to get rid of all the other stuff!

If you are looking for a vape device to replace cigarettes, the Nord2 will work for you. If you are after blowing clouds for whatever reason, then I have no idea if the Nord2 is for you!
 
Guess it is time for an update!

So it is now 5 months later. During the past 5 months, I have not rolled a coil or wicked anything.

I did buy a Nord2, and then went and bought a 2nd Nord 2. I did consider the RPM40 or 80, but they are much bulkier and an odd shape being square, the Nord2 is slightly bigger than the Nord1 and still very stealthy. Gone are the days of wearing a belt because I am carrying my vape in my pocket.

Battery life is about a day, but I am now in a habit of just switching them out leaving one on the charger, so at any given time I have a fully charged spare.

I found on the Nord1 the one negative is the rubber seal where you will the pod, it is clearly not made to last expect to replace a pod at least once a month. On the Nord2 that is substantially better, my first one broke yesterday after being in use since about Feb so I cannot complain about that.

Juice, I still found that it likes thinner juice like the Liqua brands, but at the moment since I cannot buy any I am using other brands, not the same though.

Coils last me at least 2 weeks, closer to 3 weeks. The best coils for me are the 1.4 regular coils, I tried the ceramic, did not enjoy it at all.

From a costing viewpoint, I think this device delivers.
About R600 for a Nord2 with a coil.
Spare coils R60
Spare pods R60.

I guess it is costing me R100pm for coils, and probably R20pm for pods, plus obviously juice. If you mix yourself then the total cost will be very low.

Time to get rid of all the other stuff!

If you are looking for a vape device to replace cigarettes, the Nord2 will work for you. If you are after blowing clouds for whatever reason, then I have no idea if the Nord2 is for you!

Time for an update, again!

In all this time I have only used the Nord devices, Nord 2, Nord 4, Nord 50w etc. Towards the end of 2022 I started realising I am going through coils at a silly rate, sometimes 2 days on a coil and it is done, and at R60 a pop it was madness.

Anyway so my pack of spare coils did not last, and towards middle/end of December (22 Dec to be exact) I was unable to get any coils locally (1.4ohm), then decided maybe time to test another system, now usually I research and read, research and read for days, this time I just popped into a vape shop, said I need a pod system with at least 1 or high ohm coils, picked up a Uwell X Pod system and a pack of spare coils. Got back home, removed the default coil and replaced it with the 1.2 that was also in the boxed, juiced it up and started using it.

I am STILL using that same first coil! So that is now 3 weeks on a single coil! The only negative, I have detected a small bit of leaking now during the past few days, but R60 for 3 weeks makes me pretty happy!

It is running on the 1.2 coil and 10w, with the Nord I found I had to start it on about 12w, and within 2-3 days had to bump it right to 20w to get the same experience.

Now I am sitting with about 4-5 Nord devices in perfect condition in the drawer, maybe time to stick those in the classifieds!
 
Time for an update, again!

In all this time I have only used the Nord devices, Nord 2, Nord 4, Nord 50w etc. Towards the end of 2022 I started realising I am going through coils at a silly rate, sometimes 2 days on a coil and it is done, and at R60 a pop it was madness.

Anyway so my pack of spare coils did not last, and towards middle/end of December (22 Dec to be exact) I was unable to get any coils locally (1.4ohm), then decided maybe time to test another system, now usually I research and read, research and read for days, this time I just popped into a vape shop, said I need a pod system with at least 1 or high ohm coils, picked up a Uwell X Pod system and a pack of spare coils. Got back home, removed the default coil and replaced it with the 1.2 that was also in the boxed, juiced it up and started using it.

I am STILL using that same first coil! So that is now 3 weeks on a single coil! The only negative, I have detected a small bit of leaking now during the past few days, but R60 for 3 weeks makes me pretty happy!

It is running on the 1.2 coil and 10w, with the Nord I found I had to start it on about 12w, and within 2-3 days had to bump it right to 20w to get the same experience.

Now I am sitting with about 4-5 Nord devices in perfect condition in the drawer, maybe time to stick those in the classifieds!

congrats @CyberJoe
the thing I don’t like about commercial coils is when they go out of stock
it happened to me a few times in the past

now I am on rebuildables, so I just rewick after every 30ml of juice (sometimes double that depending on the juice). Coils can last for months if not even a year if one cleans and dry burns them every time you rewick. Works out way more cost effective.
Downside is a bit of admin when you pit stop. Which is time. And that is valuable

so R60 for 3 weeks seems like a bargain if you ask me

I suggest you stock up on those coils once you’ve made sure that they’re the right ones for you
 
congrats @CyberJoe
the thing I don’t like about commercial coils is when they go out of stock
it happened to me a few times in the past

now I am on rebuildables, so I just rewick after every 30ml of juice (sometimes double that depending on the juice). Coils can last for months if not even a year if one cleans and dry burns them every time you rewick. Works out way more cost effective.
Downside is a bit of admin when you pit stop. Which is time. And that is valuable

so R60 for 3 weeks seems like a bargain if you ask me

I suggest you stock up on those coils once you’ve made sure that they’re the right ones for you

I have the tanks and all, I have coil wire, cotton, the tools, but it is just too much pt! Yes good plan, maybe I should buy some more coils just incase.
 
I have the tanks and all, I have coil wire, cotton, the tools, but it is just too much pt! Yes good plan, maybe I should buy some more coils just incase.

fair enough
the PT is real
 
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