Trump Announces Disastrous Plan to Ban Flavored Vapes Across the US

Hooked said:
Thanks @Adephi, I actually forgot that most of the concentrates are food flavourings! I wonder than in what way Flavorah is different from the food flavourings...
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@RichJB might give you a more complete answer.

As far as I know there is not that much difference. Flv is just aimed solely at vaping as the target market. Eg. Capella will have a v1 and v2 of some flavourings where the v1 will contain diketones. But Flv is completely clear of it.
 
Flv was designed from the ground up to be vaping flavours although I think they do sell to other sectors as well.

They couldn't ban flavours as they are used in other industries. Capella, TFA and FW do most of their business in the food and beverage sectors, vaping is just extra business for them.

The regulators also aren't interested in DIY. This is not about health or public safety, it's about virtue signaling, pandering and vote-winning. The Mother Grundies complain that people won't think of the children, the regulators ban products to show they're thinking of the children, DIYers keep making the banned product for their own use, and everybody goes home happy. As long as the banned product isn't on sale in shops, the Mother Grundies are satisfied.

It's the same as drugs. Opioids now kill more Americans than guns and road deaths combined. But they're banned, you can't buy them in the shops. So the Mother Grundies can tell each other "Isn't it wonderful that drugs are banned and we solved the problem?" When you tell them that the problem is far from solved, in fact it's worse than ever, they pretend they didn't hear. It triggers them and shatters their rosy view of the world, so they feign deafness.
 
Done, I hope everyone else keeps on signing even if the 100k is reached if the system allows it.

Only 207 to go.
 
Hooked said:
A bit of sense from Trump, for a change
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Banning vapes is not something new, the FDA and powers that be have been trying to ban flavours and vaping devices etc since at least 2015, and the mainstream media have never been pro vaping as a safer alternative to smoking, the narrative was always to demonize vaping. But of course when Trump mentions it, it's BAD! media go into a frenzy ..start spouting all the reasons why a ban is not good and voila!!!. Hopefully more people have been exposed to the real truth that vaping as a means of smoking cessation is a positive.
 
Since I joined this forum, everytime anything was mentioned about vaping regulations, there was a big uproar from most vapers.
So the question. If there are strict regulations is place, would this whole vaping deaths etc with backyard chemists not have been avoided? And less harm would have been done to vaping culture?
 
Jean claude Vaaldamme said:
Since I joined this forum, everytime anything was mentioned about vaping regulations, there was a big uproar from most vapers.
So the question. If there are strict regulations is place, would this whole vaping deaths etc with backyard chemists not have been avoided? And less harm would have been done to vaping culture?
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Cigarettes are supposed to be regulated yet you still find illegal cigarettes at every corner shop and street vendor.

I believe regulation could not avoided this. But this whole episode helped a lot in educating a lot of people in the dangers of these black market products.
 
Adephi said:
Cigarettes are supposed to be regulated yet you still find illegal cigarettes at every corner shop and street vendor.

I believe regulation could not avoided this. But this whole episode helped a lot in educating a lot of people in the dangers of these black market products.
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Firstly this was not in SA, are there illegal cigaretts around every corner in the USA? If the lungs problems was in SA, Im sure there would be no outcry from the rest of the world as they know whats going on here.

Secondly lets take SA for example. What is blackmarket? To my knowledge there is no regulations, no control. So what is deemed blackmarket? Every single juice maker?
 
Dear Mr Trump

Piece of solid advice from ye olde Sparky

Build your wall...
Grab her by the @#&*@
Find a new hair cut
BUT FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY LEAVE VAPING ALONE YOU motha @#&@@%? %=#* and you can go & #!?@ yourself

Kind regards

Your friendly neighborhood Sparky
 
Jean claude Vaaldamme said:
Firstly this was not in SA, are there illegal cigaretts around every corner in the USA? If the lungs problems was in SA, Im sure there would be no outcry from the rest of the world as they know whats going on here.

Secondly lets take SA for example. What is blackmarket? To my knowledge there is no regulations, no control. So what is deemed blackmarket? Every single juice maker?
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The fact that these happened from thc cartridges that is heavily regulated prove the black market is booming in the US.
 
I heard that the guys who were responsible for producing and putting these Vit-E oil contaminated THC cartridges on the market were arrested. This doesn’t mean that it won’t happen again. We’re talking about illegal products so control is going to be difficult as long as there is a market for them.
 
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