Clones - The Good, Bad & Ugly

Be weary of requests made to the Santas you see in shopping malls... they are clones and don't deliver on promises they make ;)
I was going to add about most Santa's being clones but then realised their was no original in the first place to clone, i don't mind as it's me that will be having Santa's glass of whiskey and mince pie Christmas Eve!
 
With regard to your comment about the 510 pin and re-using it - I see your point and it does make for an interesting discussion. However my personal view is that using a common connector piece means any atty can fit on any mod. Open system. I suppose its like a USB connector in computers. I am not 100% sure of this but i dont think there is an original creator of the USB interface that all other manufacturers have to pay royalties to. And it helps for interoperability - so the customer wins at the end of the day.

Way off-topic, I know, but cellphone companies were kinda "told" to standardise their chargers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply

"In 2009, a European Commission initiative resulted in the specification of a common external power supply (common EPS) for use with data-enabled mobile phones sold in the European Union."
 
The part people miss about this issue is the theft of intellectual property. I really feel for the modders who spend months and years designing a product only to be ripped off by the Cloners! Is that really fair?
The thing is if you are consistent! The coil cutting guide was invented by an English Bloke and within a couple of weeks versions were being included free with RDA's and RTA's from China and i notice you just bought a more fancy version, what about the theft of his intellectual property, i see no difference!
 
The thing is if you are consistent! The coil cutting guide was invented by an English Bloke and within a couple of weeks versions were being included free with RDA's and RTA's from China and i notice you just bought a more fancy version, what about the theft of his intellectual property, i see no difference!

Agreed. Thanks for the reminder of the initial inventer... I will toss this one into the gorge.
 
Back on topic i hear a lot of reports that Kayfun clones tend to disappoint while Doggystyle clones tend to be very good.

I have two Kayfun 5 clones, one from the forum classifieds and one from Vapecon 2017. Not even made by the same company, yet identical, very heavy and all of the parts are fully interchangeable. Never had any problems with them and they are still in daily use for my tobacco mixes.
1st one is made by SXK and the 2nd one by Tobeco (so I was told).
 
I assume that the answer on the particular question will highly depend on the level of the clone's sophistication.:)
Genuinely a scientific study (apparently) conducted a few years back findings were the less intelligent women were the more they thought about sex so the best outcome is to have a wife of average intelligence and be grateful for what you get because the two ends of the scales were sex was only on offer as manipulation if your wife wants something or you got plenty but your wife is as daft as a brush! Not made up it was a genuine study!
 
I have two Kayfun 5 clones, one from the forum classifieds and one from Vapecon 2017. Not even made by the same company, yet identical, very heavy and all of the parts are fully interchangeable. Never had any problems with them and they are still in daily use for my tobacco mixes.
1st one is made by SXK and the 2nd one by Tobeco (so I was told).
Haven't heard of Tobeco since i bought the Supertank which housed aspire Nautilus coils but yes they were big cloners back in the day when Ehpro and Wotofo were also mainly known for clones!
 
My 2 cents. If I had to use smok coils only lots of gear would have been thrown out ages ago. What utter rubbish. Instead better than the original clones saved it for me and I'm happy as. Awesome to be exact. Would I now bash smok? No they probably outsourced coil manufacturing and hit a lemon. I've bought one or two clone cheap as chips mod kits and never again. Crap and it shows. I've only used wismec, eleaf, smok and now to be vaporesso. I'm old school ok I'm not competing with anybody for anything. If it works don't fix or change it. Not yet at the stage to diy coils and that suits me. For now. Some clones are 100% more superior than originals I've learnt that lesson hard way. But only the better clones and reviews and sales show that to me. It's not just to save $s if original is crap that's just what it is. As long as it's interchangeable it's all great no worries.
 
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My 2 cents. If I had to use smok coils only lots of gear would have been thrown out ages ago. What utter rubbish. Instead better than the original clones saved it for me and I'm happy as. Awesome to be exact. Would I now bash smok? No they probably outsourced coil manufacturing and hit a lemon. I've bought one or two clone cheap as chips mods and never again. Crap and it shows. I've only used wismec, smok and now to be vaporesso. I'm old school ok I'm not competing with anybody for anything. If it works don't fix or change it. Not yet at the stage to diy coils and that suits me. For now. Some clones are 100% superior than originals I've learnt that lesson hard way. But only the better clones and reviews and sales show that to me. It's not just to save $s if original is crap that's just what it is. As long as it's interchangeable it's all great no worries.
Off topic i know but didn't the Welsh Wizard play rugby for Newcastle when he played all year round?
 
Off topic i know but didn't the Welsh Wizard play rugby for Newcastle when he played all year round?
Mate sorry I don't know moved up to Newcastle 3 years ago from central coast where I lived 17 years. Still getting to know the joint. Rugby in au is such a huge mess now let's not get started on it it's brewing on civil war here. Far left social justice have crept in just like everywhere else.
 
Mate sorry I don't know moved up to Newcastle 3 years ago from central coast where I lived 17 years. Still getting to know the joint. Rugby in au is such a huge mess now let's not get started on it it's brewing on civil war here. Far left social justice have crept in just like everywhere else.
Yeah Jonothan Davies one of Wales Rugby Union legends switched codes in his later years and played over here but when our season finished played for Newcastle in Australia. So what's up over there? not win the world cup for a while and it's politics rather than accepting South Africa, New Zealand and God forbid England are just much better than you at the present time, lol!
 
If only that was the problem. Win a rwc again, who knows? the management of both league and union in their infinite wisdom decided to jump on the extreme far left social justice bandwagon and the supporters aren't happy. Tinkering to blow up! No spectators empty stadiums no money. Simple fix. Much better we don't derail thread here ;) with the proverbial sh@@t hitting the fan in SA rugby recently. Not advised to discuss any more, it's touchy. Note to myself.. Breath in breath out and count to 10. And don't say another word! Church, politics and rugby nogo ever!!!
 
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