Hello all you fine folk!
I love these forums and I feel fortunate to have come across them
I am brand new to building decks and in 3 days I plan to make a massive order. It will hurt the pocket book but I'll be honestly set for a long, long time as Juices on Element Vape are half the price at maximum compared to what they cost at local stores here in Canada.
Anyway, without too much preamble, I want to ask what your recommendations are for building coils to safely vape up to 120W without burning?
For a long time I used to smoke 60 watts on a single battery DTL Smok stick using 12mg. After breaking it I bought a Steam Crave Hadron Pro (400W LiPo) mod and a Smok TFV18 tank (the highest watt tank I could find). I fell in love with the setup and I use in it 6mg freebase juice now running at 120 watts.
I had always wanted to build a race car (perhaps a rocket) for a vape so-to-speak and I decided I wanted to upgrade a bit to a new kit for something special to have at home.
I am determined on getting a Steamcrave Titan V2 300W kit which uses four 18650 batteries, for which I plan to order 4 Hometech Work2 (25A) batteries. I'm also getting a Coil Master V2 kit, a Hometech 4-battery charging dock, cotton, 20 bottles of 100ml juice, Hellvape N90 Competition Round Wire (0.09ohm / inch - 23g...gauge?) and Steam Crave Prebuilt Coils.
For the prebuilt coils I'm considering these tri-core fused claptons:
Composition: 26*3+36
Inner Diameter: 3.0mm
Wraps: 6
Resistance: 0.2ohm
I have no idea what watts they would go up to. I should probably add, I have never used an RDA/RTA/RDTA before. Considering the Smok TFV18 coils have much smaller coils than the ones typically used for building, I assume that the vapour production would be much more strong anyway.
All the same however, I'd like to have the option of very high watts available to me with at least the Hellvape round wire. The quad steel claptons (4mm ID, 6 wraps) even more so look beautiful and capable, thus I think I'd be okay trying out a lower wattage and seeing how I like it. Again, this is very unknown territory for me and given that I'll be splurging on money I had been putting away, I'm a little bit apprehensive to say the least, especially since I am a scrupulously meticulous, methodical and routine-oriented homo sapien.
Since I have no idea how to properly get this Steam Engine calculation thing worked out I am left having to embarrass myself here LOL.
Now regarding the Hellvape coils, as I'm getting shoelace cotton designed for 2.5mm to 3mm ID builds (along with a pack of cotton pads), I'd probably want to keep the spacing tight so that it distributes heat evenly.
I asked the robot, ChatGTP, what she thinks albeit I cannot trust that thing as far as I can throw it and thus I don't much like using it if I can help it. Here's the general consensus I got from it:
For a dual-coil build at 120–160 W, you want a total resistance of about:
0.10 Ω – 0.15 Ω total
→ Each coil should measure roughly 0.20 Ω – 0.30 Ω individually.
Step 2: Estimate Length per Coil
Wire spec: 0.09 Ω per inch
To get ≈0.25 Ω per coil:
0.25Ω÷0.09Ω/in=2.78inofwirepercoil
0.25Ω÷0.09Ω/in=2.78inofwirepercoil
So you need about 2.8 in (≈71 mm) of wire per coil (including legs).
Step 3: Convert Length to Wraps (3 mm ID)
Circumference of 3 mm rod = π × 3 mm = 9.42 mm per wrap
2.8 in = 71 mm
→ 71 mm ÷ 9.42 mm/wrap ≈ 7.5 wraps
Result: 7 wraps (3 mm ID, 23g N90, dual coil)
Each coil ≈ 0.25 Ω
Dual setup ≈ 0.12 Ω total
Sweet spot: 125–155 W
Performance Notes
Ramp-up: Instant (N90 is extremely responsive)
Vapor: Dense and hot — good for direct-lung high-watt vaping
Flavor: Better at 3–3.5 mm ID; don’t over-tighten coils (N90 softens easily)
Summary
Build ID Wraps Est. Per Coil Dual Total Watt Range
Hellvape N90 23g 3 mm 7 wraps ~0.25 Ω ~0.12 Ω 120–160 W
(Hotter build) 3 mm 6 wraps ~0.21 Ω ~0.10 Ω 140–170 W
Recommended: Start with 7 wraps per coil (3 mm ID), check resistance (~0.12 Ω total), and then tune wattage between 125–155 W for best flavor and cloud balance.
So what do you all think? Is that correct, that I won't burn my coils if I try that setup out? Also, does more watts not always equal more power/cloud production? This will be an exciting and interesting vaping journey no doubt and hopefully in the near future I'll be able to acquire a few more mods and tanks to better broaden my experiences with and to find my ideal happy spots therein. A million apologies for this torrent of ramblings and if you had read this far, you deserve a medal! Thanks for reading!
I love these forums and I feel fortunate to have come across them
I am brand new to building decks and in 3 days I plan to make a massive order. It will hurt the pocket book but I'll be honestly set for a long, long time as Juices on Element Vape are half the price at maximum compared to what they cost at local stores here in Canada.
Anyway, without too much preamble, I want to ask what your recommendations are for building coils to safely vape up to 120W without burning?
For a long time I used to smoke 60 watts on a single battery DTL Smok stick using 12mg. After breaking it I bought a Steam Crave Hadron Pro (400W LiPo) mod and a Smok TFV18 tank (the highest watt tank I could find). I fell in love with the setup and I use in it 6mg freebase juice now running at 120 watts.
I had always wanted to build a race car (perhaps a rocket) for a vape so-to-speak and I decided I wanted to upgrade a bit to a new kit for something special to have at home.
I am determined on getting a Steamcrave Titan V2 300W kit which uses four 18650 batteries, for which I plan to order 4 Hometech Work2 (25A) batteries. I'm also getting a Coil Master V2 kit, a Hometech 4-battery charging dock, cotton, 20 bottles of 100ml juice, Hellvape N90 Competition Round Wire (0.09ohm / inch - 23g...gauge?) and Steam Crave Prebuilt Coils.
For the prebuilt coils I'm considering these tri-core fused claptons:
Composition: 26*3+36
Inner Diameter: 3.0mm
Wraps: 6
Resistance: 0.2ohm
I have no idea what watts they would go up to. I should probably add, I have never used an RDA/RTA/RDTA before. Considering the Smok TFV18 coils have much smaller coils than the ones typically used for building, I assume that the vapour production would be much more strong anyway.
All the same however, I'd like to have the option of very high watts available to me with at least the Hellvape round wire. The quad steel claptons (4mm ID, 6 wraps) even more so look beautiful and capable, thus I think I'd be okay trying out a lower wattage and seeing how I like it. Again, this is very unknown territory for me and given that I'll be splurging on money I had been putting away, I'm a little bit apprehensive to say the least, especially since I am a scrupulously meticulous, methodical and routine-oriented homo sapien.
Since I have no idea how to properly get this Steam Engine calculation thing worked out I am left having to embarrass myself here LOL.
Now regarding the Hellvape coils, as I'm getting shoelace cotton designed for 2.5mm to 3mm ID builds (along with a pack of cotton pads), I'd probably want to keep the spacing tight so that it distributes heat evenly.
I asked the robot, ChatGTP, what she thinks albeit I cannot trust that thing as far as I can throw it and thus I don't much like using it if I can help it. Here's the general consensus I got from it:
For a dual-coil build at 120–160 W, you want a total resistance of about:
0.10 Ω – 0.15 Ω total
→ Each coil should measure roughly 0.20 Ω – 0.30 Ω individually.
Step 2: Estimate Length per CoilWire spec: 0.09 Ω per inch
To get ≈0.25 Ω per coil:
0.25Ω÷0.09Ω/in=2.78inofwirepercoil
0.25Ω÷0.09Ω/in=2.78inofwirepercoil
So you need about 2.8 in (≈71 mm) of wire per coil (including legs).
Step 3: Convert Length to Wraps (3 mm ID)
Circumference of 3 mm rod = π × 3 mm = 9.42 mm per wrap
2.8 in = 71 mm
→ 71 mm ÷ 9.42 mm/wrap ≈ 7.5 wraps
Result: 7 wraps (3 mm ID, 23g N90, dual coil)Each coil ≈ 0.25 Ω
Dual setup ≈ 0.12 Ω total
Sweet spot: 125–155 W
Performance Notes
Ramp-up: Instant (N90 is extremely responsive)
Vapor: Dense and hot — good for direct-lung high-watt vaping
Flavor: Better at 3–3.5 mm ID; don’t over-tighten coils (N90 softens easily)
Summary
Build ID Wraps Est. Per Coil Dual Total Watt Range
Hellvape N90 23g 3 mm 7 wraps ~0.25 Ω ~0.12 Ω 120–160 W
(Hotter build) 3 mm 6 wraps ~0.21 Ω ~0.10 Ω 140–170 W
Recommended: Start with 7 wraps per coil (3 mm ID), check resistance (~0.12 Ω total), and then tune wattage between 125–155 W for best flavor and cloud balance.
So what do you all think? Is that correct, that I won't burn my coils if I try that setup out? Also, does more watts not always equal more power/cloud production? This will be an exciting and interesting vaping journey no doubt and hopefully in the near future I'll be able to acquire a few more mods and tanks to better broaden my experiences with and to find my ideal happy spots therein. A million apologies for this torrent of ramblings and if you had read this far, you deserve a medal! Thanks for reading!
