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Yea m8 ...... just felt like messing about with @Rob Fisher.
Have never bought a clone in my life and not planning to ever either. Clones are for the weak and mild.
If i cannot afford it i simply move on.
Yea m8 ...... just felt like messing about with @Rob Fisher.
Have never bought a clone in my life and not planning to ever either. Clones are for the weak and mild.
If i cannot afford it i simply move on.
The Birret box.Why would you guys pay so much for these when Sir Vape sells a way superior quality version?
Why would you guys pay so much for these when Sir Vape sells a way superior quality version?
Oh my word, i thought you were kidding @KZOR
Checked it out now
They even copied the logo on the box
Sigh
Sorry to come back to the clone. I see nothing wrong with it. If it were not for cloning I would not have been able to buy a Porsche as my very first vehicle.
The very first Porsche I ever owned: (Not the actual car, that was painted racing turquoise between the rusty bits.)
Porsche 911 clone by VW. Aircooled, rear engined, rear wheel drive... Exactly the same as the real deal.
(Sorry to those that noticed me posting this twice.)
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The very first Porsche I ever owned: (Not the actual car, that was painted racing turquoise between the rusty bits.)
Porsche 911 clone by VW. Aircooled, rear engined, rear wheel drive... Exactly the same as the real deal.
(Sorry to those that noticed me posting this twice.)
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VW wasn't really a clone of the porshe. Same guy I think designed both.Sorry to come back to the clone. I see nothing wrong with it. If it were not for cloning I would not have been able to buy a Porsche as my very first vehicle.
The very first Porsche I ever owned: (Not the actual car, that was painted racing turquoise between the rusty bits.)
Porsche 911 clone by VW. Aircooled, rear engined, rear wheel drive... Exactly the same as the real deal.
(Sorry to those that noticed me posting this twice.)
Regards
Same designer just for different markets/uses.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche
In that case you share a point of view with Jeremy Clarkson that a Porsche is merely a glorified Beetle. Irrespective how true that may be. Irrespective of how much the evidence may make that an irrefutable fact. I refuse to agree to such an outrageous statement.
Having hijacked this thread sufficiently to receive a stern warning from our respected moderators, please consider the warning received and heeded from this point forward.
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Stay tuned for the next 20minutes ....... made something special for the Billet box style owners.
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Referring to the Sxk Billet boxes styles that Sir Vape just brought in? SXK who also makes the silvanusa and the HHA Ultron (Same thing)
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Not referring to anyone specific. Just messing around.
Why do you ask? Bad experience with one?
Without contempt for Billet Box Vapor; these guys sell out everything they make every week in minutes. They are no doubt making enough money to ramp up production. I have no doubt that they have ramped up considerably from the first version, but how can SXK come out and make a clone and possibly produce a lot more?
As I understand, the first SXK batch had some issues and stopped production to fix them. Backwards magnets etc. Word is that they're apparently also cloning the Exocert. They also have a proper DNA60 version coming out.
So here we have a clone. Made by someone else. All problems soon to be fixed. Exact dimensions as original. Same chip. Available for people to purchase without jumping through hoops.
The originals will still sell out in minutes. Billet Box Vapor will not feel this clone on their bottom line at all.
I don't condone clones. I've bought a few and always ended up buying the original to replace it if I can get it.
Mods are not usually cloned. It's usually the atomisers. Even if a clone is made of a mod, it's not often they chuck in a DNA chip. SXK also makes mods for companies, like @boxerulez mentioned above.
All this leads me to believe that Billet Box Vapor themselves have something to do with this clone. I think this is going to catapult their brand to the mainstream like never before without tarnishing the exclusivity of the mods made by them. It will popularise their atomiser box thing and all atomisers for it and accessories. Maybe some sort of profit sharing with SXK. They could increase their profits 10x without lifting a finger. It's genius.
As I understand, the first SXK batch had some issues and stopped production to fix them. Backwards magnets etc. Word is that they're apparently also cloning the Exocert. They also have a proper DNA60 version coming out.
So here we have a clone. Made by someone else. All problems soon to be fixed. Exact dimensions as original. Same chip. Available for people to purchase without jumping through hoops.
The originals will still sell out in minutes. Billet Box Vapor will not feel this clone on their bottom line at all.
I don't condone clones. I've bought a few and always ended up buying the original to replace it if I can get it.
Mods are not usually cloned. It's usually the atomisers. Even if a clone is made of a mod, it's not often they chuck in a DNA chip. SXK also makes mods for companies, like @boxerulez mentioned above.
All this leads me to believe that Billet Box Vapor themselves have something to do with this clone. I think this is going to catapult their brand to the mainstream like never before without tarnishing the exclusivity of the mods made by them. It will popularise their atomiser box thing and all atomisers for it and accessories. Maybe some sort of profit sharing with SXK. They could increase their profits 10x without lifting a finger. It's genius.
This is a factor even at the bottom end of the market. I have a Virus clone which appeared at Vape King literally weeks after I'd seen the Vaping Bogan review the original. Cigreen make dirt cheap drippers, the stuff is like $18 at Gearbest. I was waiting for someone to bring in the original, which I'd happily have paid for, it would only have been R450 or so. But nobody did. I can't be bovvered with Post Office bureaucracy and waiting six months for parcels from overseas. So I just popped into VK that very day and bought the R300 clone. Sorted. The struggle is real, know'm'sayin?
@Petrus I have watched this video 10 times already and still cant get enuf...its awesome
I was in a vape shop one day with my clone recoil RDA. A customer saw it and said he also has one. When I told him it was a clone he's face changed and he snobbishly said he has the authentic. Out of interest I asked him to try my one. See if there is any difference. He vaped it, mod was set to 40watts. He's response was, Oh I vape at 70watts. I bumped up the wattage and he's face changed again. That realisation that he spent so much on the authentic. He's words were. There is no difference.
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Everyone has there stance on the topic and your testament is a great example that the vape quality can be identical, with that said I cant say the same for the build/material quality, after using my auth hadaly daily for a month (rebuilt 6/7 times) i was confident when my buddy asked me to rebuild his clone . . . Guess what, like a true fool i snaped a screw in the post, it took me a few seconds to realise what happened. . . Yes this can be considered user error but that was enough to turn me off clones.
But they have a place. My buddys squonk set up cost 1/4th of mine . . . And they taste identical!
Edit: i feel mine would outlast his 4 fold though . . .
But that is a faulty screw though. Many authentic atties have the same issue especially with grub screws stripping. I have no issues with my hadaly clone.
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Same here and I agree 110%. But you know same as I do that you are preaching to a deaf choir that will always find some excuse to justify it.
I'm not going back to any hole to hide, but I'm done with this thread.
Agreed, its theft. But note the wrong doing... The cloner is the guy in the wrong here, not the choir so to speak. People want to buy a product, if the product is there to buy, clone or not, people are going to buy it, quality issues aside people will buy according to what they can afford anyway, if money isnt an issue for you, good on you boet, enjoy but lets not fault the average joe just because he vapes and buys vape gear, clone or not.
Regarding the Billet box - If the original owners are not in some sort of deal with SXK then maybe they should ditch the clever 'limited' marketing strategy they have going on and start producing more to accommodate the demand. Just a thought..
They wont cause its all part of H.E tactics.
If you are a manufacturer and you cant keep up with demand what do you do.... Buy more machines.... Ok maybe you dont have funds for more machines.... I know lets employe more prople so we can run 24hrs to keep up with the demand.
No wait if we start suppling more and make it easy for someone to buy our product it will no longer be "exclusive" and "H.E"
Should have known better than to dive in...
I do understand your opinion that was politely presented (I'll try to respond the same). We are at a bypass as I can't agree with it at all. I see those that buy clones as accessories to the crime after the fact, a partner of sorts that drives the clone manufactures that are only in it for the almighty buck no matter who they step on to get it. Clones for folks that suffer from one of the worst infections in vaping... instant gratification, a laziness that is found in every single aspect of vaping (life for that matter). But anyone could afford an authentic if they are willing to give up some of the frivolous things everybody wastes some money on every day, week or month and save up for it. Yes, anyone can if they really wanted to. But many will buy clones anyway because they do not care that they are supporting crimes that will degrade the overall health of the vaping business. Cloners will never go away as long as buyers support them. As I suggested we are at a bypass as I will never support clone MFG's (or those who buy them), so I feel no need to discuss this further with anyone. Spy out.
I agree with this, and adding on to it I think people would just generally be happier if they bought and used what they could afford.
I've just had my sixth cup of coffee for the day so I feel like I should stir a little, I've seen a couple comments regarding the marketing tactics of gear that gets cloned, and I get the feeling the whole thing is a feedback loop. People say item X is too expensive (but it is THE BEST THING EVER) or item X is too rare (but it is THE BEST THING EVER), so I'll just buy the clone. So even though you complain that the gear is being marketed in an exclusive manner, you are still feeding the cult of personality that you are complaining about.
It feels like you are simply reinforcing the original's incentive to stay expensive and rare, because they know they will keep getting cash from the people who can and will buy authentic, and they are basically getting free advertising from all the people rushing out to buy the copy because ITS THE BEST THING EVER. I'd take a bet that the money they "lose" to clones is cheaper than the marketing budget they'd need to get the amount of hype generated from people who rush out the buy clones.
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