E-cig Myth-busting
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ive actually been getting sick quite a bit lately. not saying that its eCig related. just saying.
So i read an article about this ages back instead of explaining
http://www.achoice2live.com/every-hurt-is-a-heal-the-quitters-flu/
I guess the more years of tar and chemicals in your system the more likely you are to get this on going over the years. IDK
http://www.achoice2live.com/every-hurt-is-a-heal-the-quitters-flu/
I guess the more years of tar and chemicals in your system the more likely you are to get this on going over the years. IDK
I just read that article and it seems pretty scary actually however in all honesty I haven't felt healthier than I am currently while smoking. I actually felt sh!t while smoking always getting sick etc - so the question is who sponsored this research? Maybe it was BAT... #JustSaying
Also sheesh this is one helaofa thread thanks @Alex.
maybe you like RIP and have a PG allergy <-- get some Ultima dude that stuff works and fixes everything
Does anyone else smell something fishy, or am I just parked a bit too close to that I & J truck ?
They have done studies but not really published any of the findings yet as far as we know, just 'revealed' the results at a large conference. Wonder if they need more 'funding' to play with some more mucus ?
They seem to fail to actually notice that cigarette smokers mostly inhale and exhale via the mouth, where vapers tend to inhale via the mouth and then exhale through the mouth AND nose for enhanced flavor. Perhaps this 'direct' contact with the nasal mucus makes this more detectable in vapers vs. smokers, seeing that this is primarily where their swabs came from.
As I have it, cigarette smoke also contains diacetyl and does so in larger quantities than most of the e-juices, so not sure why this is once again highlighted as a 'vaping only' risk for popcorn lung. They seem to miss that more and more juices are also reworked or phased out to NOT make use of any flavorings that produces this, despite the lower risks.
I suppose we will only really know after decades of vaping and lots more studies. I do know that I feel much better than I ever did on ciggies, and I'd much rather chance to pick up a passing bug that's going round than know for sure that my chances of getting cancer or emphysema from smoking is almost a given.
Nope but that article smells of propaganda...How is it that everyone I know has been healthier since quitting cigs and started vaping,by their own admission.Unfortunately most non-vapers who read the article will take what is said as fact.It disgusts me that tobacco companies would support this kind of 'research' but then again,money is the root of all evil,right?
wait until the media get's wind of this - it is headline news. They will take one of the most crazy sentences in that report, and use it in the headline without the context of that sentence. Mark my words it is going to happen.
I honestly think it was one of the big tobacco companies that sponsored that research, which makes there findings obviously in favor of analogs.
These articles piss me off to no avail. All my hard Vape-Evangelism work gets thrown down the toilet when drivvle like this comes out.
Can already see the analogue users using this to justify why their toxins are better than vaping
Can already see the analogue users using this to justify why their toxins are better than vaping
@Alex Thanks for this post. It added a bit more confidence to my vaping psyche. I am convinced that the big cigarette companies are trying to discredit vaping as it poses a substantial threat to the cigarette industry. However, the cigarette companies should not be worried as vaping is much more expensive than cigarette smoking. Therefore the "masses" will still continue to smoke "cheap" cigarettes as vaping is, for many, not affordable.
No personal experience, just stuff i've read on the web.
Google Bad Kat's Canna Pharm. Scroll down to the e-liquid tutorial.
EDIT: I just read it and she says it works but it takes like 4 weeks. Looks like the same process as steeping. So there we have it. Possible but a mission.
My 2 cents on it is PLEASE DONT **** UP SOMETHING GREAT BY PUTTING WEED IN E LIQUID. Now THAT is a rumour nobody needs.
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Dry herb vaporizers. They are not e-cigs at all. I Saw them at work in a documentary on weed. Weird things. Most of the ones in the show fill up a plastic bag and you suck on a nozzle on the bag. Part of the medical weed movement because sick people dont want smoke. The doccie showed a lady in a wheelchair with no ability to even hold the bag herself so the vapour just gets blown over her face by other people. Absolutely nothing even similar to our devices or community.
I understand the hate from the tobacco companies, but really don't get all hate from government authorities. They are banning vaping left right and centre, without any concrete information on why. What is up here ?
"The legal status of e-cigarettes is currently pending in many countries. Some countries such as Brazil, Singapore, the Seychelles, and Uruguay have banned e-cigarettes.In Canada, they are technically illegal to sell, as no nicotine-containing e-fluid is approved by Health Canada, but this is generally unenforced and they are commonly available for sale Canada-wide. In the United Kingdom, the use and sale of e-cigarettes are legal. In the US, the use and sale of e-cigarettes are legal."
SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_electronic_cigarettes
"The legal status of e-cigarettes is currently pending in many countries. Some countries such as Brazil, Singapore, the Seychelles, and Uruguay have banned e-cigarettes.In Canada, they are technically illegal to sell, as no nicotine-containing e-fluid is approved by Health Canada, but this is generally unenforced and they are commonly available for sale Canada-wide. In the United Kingdom, the use and sale of e-cigarettes are legal. In the US, the use and sale of e-cigarettes are legal."
SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_electronic_cigarettes
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Reduces the income they receive from tax levies they impose on cigarettes if they lose all the smokers to ecigs
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I think it's quite complex @WARMACHINE
And naturally it differs from country to country
One has to look at all the stakeholders. Big pharma included
And one needs to understand the flow of money in the entire chain
And factor in the political backdrop in each.
Am just hoping that more countries in the world will see it the way the UK seems to sees it (ours included).
I would agree, but the huge cost burden that tobacco related illness contribute to a country's health budget is massive, and far out weighs the taxes collected. It seems a dumb way to go about, but then we are talking politicians, not the brightest crayons in the box
Yeah, it is totally insane. Start prohibiting the real "crack cocaine"of the world - SUGAR. This kills more people than any other substance on the earth, but you don't see any meaningful legislation to curb the carnage.
Therein lies the answer
However I dont believe that we know the numbers behind that
And dont forget that Big Pharma makes billions treating smoking related illnesses - and they pay taxes too
And there are long standing relationships between all these stakeholders and government that go back decades - and it differs by country.
You are right though!
Vaping for the win
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Yup. Where politicians are concerned all reason and common sense flies right out the window.
Never abt the country but rather how they can line their own pockets
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It is way more profitable to treat a disease than to cure it. Big pharma will lose billions if all smokers quit.
It's coming. UK government saying a million people gave up cigarettes due to e-cigs. That is alot of people - 1,5% of their entire population.
Whoever designed that site should cut down a bit.
Looool... my guess was a Microsoft Frontpage DIY vibe.
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