I was refering to the traditional method. I would use the paperclip as a guidance for that method, a lot of people on the german forums do it that way. However I found that I can do it without guidance, so no need for it here
First Coil
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Thanks @Gazzacpt, I feel like the flat ribbon gives me a slight bit more flavour and vapour compared to regular round Kanthal on the coils I'm doing.
The 0.1 x 0.4mm ribbon im using is the equivalent to 32 gua Kanthal, so I get more surface area with the ribbon for the same amount of wraps that I would be doing with round Kanthal.
It is however a little fiddly to get the ribbon to stay put under the screws when you start tightening them, I just do a full wrap around the screw to make it a little easier.
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Thanks @Spiri one day when I'm feeling brave I'll give it a shot the trident has slots so I shouldn't have the the tie down problem.
Thanks @Silver1, It was good fun to coil and document the procedure.
I'm vaping it at 9,5 watts which I feel is the sweet-spot on the coil and setup I'm using.
The 6mg was a little harsh for about half a day, but only because I have been vaping 6mg on all my other tanks for the past 3 months.
I actually had some cold sweats and had to sit down now and again. These Kayfun's are way better on the nicotine delivery than I thought it would be.
The Coil mellowed after about an hour of use and the vape was not so hot anymore. And once I got over the initial kick of the nicotine I could actually enjoy the vape.
I had a bit of a bender over the weekend with @RevnLucky7 and was actually surprised to see him favouring my setup (I think it was my coil lolz) over his own.
I'm very impressed with the intense flavour and thick vapour of the Kayfun. Yum fun!
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Kayfuns ftw
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Lovely @Spiri
After my cold sweating experience at the VapeMeet on my Kayfun, I have let it lie for a while. It will come out when I feel adventurous and have a bit more time...
Also, mine leaked quite a bit at the Vape Meet so I guess I am gonna have to spend some time figuring that out and time is not on my side now....
After my cold sweating experience at the VapeMeet on my Kayfun, I have let it lie for a while. It will come out when I feel adventurous and have a bit more time...
Also, mine leaked quite a bit at the Vape Meet so I guess I am gonna have to spend some time figuring that out and time is not on my side now....
Mine also leaks @Silver1 . It's through the fill hole. I pjammed some prestic in there and now it works and no leaking.
try the filling from the top, and turning upside down to tighten the top cap. Its described in the thread "Kayfun filling techniques"
the real McCoySvoemoesto has an O Ring on the screw for the filling hole. Is that also on yours?
My first unsupervised coil
The first one I did I had a master coiler (@TylerD) supervising me at our vape meet. This coil I did all by myself
It came out well and the vape is really good. I am very pleased.
It's on an IGO-L.
Kanthal 28g wire
ID: not sure but approx 2mm. I made use of @TylerD's trick of using a small screwdriver. Makes it easier to wind the coil while holding it and also helps to get it into position in the device.
10 wraps
Came out at 1.7 ohms. Slightly higher than the 1.6 ohm coil I built under supervision with @TylerD.
Wicked with cotton.
For this, I tried to position the coil quite close to the posts and fairly high up. I was trying to get more throat hit. Thanks @Matthee for the pointers. It worked. The throat hit is very good. After building it, I discovered it was a bit too high and not aligned with the air hole, so I gently moved the coil a bit down.
Juice is none other than 5Pawns Bowdens Mate. Heaven for me on this dripper. Using the SVD at 12.5 watts.
Ohm meter is a great base to work on. Thanks for that tip a while back @Matthee
Nicely firing. Used @TylerD's advice of the tweezer squeeze to get the coils tight together.
Wicked and lubed up. Cotton not too tight before putting juice on. Just a bit of resistance when pulling in either direction.
I was trying to get closer to the posts than to the edge of the device - going for more throat hit. I probably could have gotten closer to the posts though. But the throat hit is great.
I welcome any comments and suggestions.
What do you think I should do for my next build?
- Lower resistance - say down to 1.3 - but on the SVD, will that make much of a difference at the same power setting? If I were to go lower resistance do you suggest a smaller ID or the same ID with fewer wraps?
- Try go closer to the posts for more throat hit?
@Tom, I know you once said try go as close to the edge as possible. To get the coil as close to the airhole as possible. But my understanding is that improves the flavour. This thing has great flavour anyway so I am willing to sacrifice a bit of flavour for more throat hit. I am keen to try that though in any event to see if I can perceive the difference.
The first one I did I had a master coiler (@TylerD) supervising me at our vape meet. This coil I did all by myself
It came out well and the vape is really good. I am very pleased.
It's on an IGO-L.
Kanthal 28g wire
ID: not sure but approx 2mm. I made use of @TylerD's trick of using a small screwdriver. Makes it easier to wind the coil while holding it and also helps to get it into position in the device.
10 wraps
Came out at 1.7 ohms. Slightly higher than the 1.6 ohm coil I built under supervision with @TylerD.
Wicked with cotton.
For this, I tried to position the coil quite close to the posts and fairly high up. I was trying to get more throat hit. Thanks @Matthee for the pointers. It worked. The throat hit is very good. After building it, I discovered it was a bit too high and not aligned with the air hole, so I gently moved the coil a bit down.
Juice is none other than 5Pawns Bowdens Mate. Heaven for me on this dripper. Using the SVD at 12.5 watts.
Ohm meter is a great base to work on. Thanks for that tip a while back @Matthee
Nicely firing. Used @TylerD's advice of the tweezer squeeze to get the coils tight together.
Wicked and lubed up. Cotton not too tight before putting juice on. Just a bit of resistance when pulling in either direction.
I was trying to get closer to the posts than to the edge of the device - going for more throat hit. I probably could have gotten closer to the posts though. But the throat hit is great.
I welcome any comments and suggestions.
What do you think I should do for my next build?
- Lower resistance - say down to 1.3 - but on the SVD, will that make much of a difference at the same power setting? If I were to go lower resistance do you suggest a smaller ID or the same ID with fewer wraps?
- Try go closer to the posts for more throat hit?
@Tom, I know you once said try go as close to the edge as possible. To get the coil as close to the airhole as possible. But my understanding is that improves the flavour. This thing has great flavour anyway so I am willing to sacrifice a bit of flavour for more throat hit. I am keen to try that though in any event to see if I can perceive the difference.
Great job. You might find that the coil will heat up faster, if you go down to 1.4 or so, otherwise, that's perfect!My first unsupervised coil
The first one I did I had a master coiler (@TylerD) supervising me at our vape meet. This coil I did all by myself
It came out well and the vape is really good. I am very pleased.
It's on an IGO-L.
Kanthal 28g wire
ID: not sure but approx 2mm. I made use of @TylerD's trick of using a small screwdriver. Makes it easier to wind the coil while holding it and also helps to get it into position in the device.
10 wraps
Came out at 1.7 ohms. Slightly higher than the 1.6 ohm coil I built under supervision with @TylerD.
Wicked with cotton.
For this, I tried to position the coil quite close to the posts and fairly high up. I was trying to get more throat hit. Thanks @Matthee for the pointers. It worked. The throat hit is very good. After building it, I discovered it was a bit too high and not aligned with the air hole, so I gently moved the coil a bit down.
Juice is none other than 5Pawns Bowdens Mate. Heaven for me on this dripper. Using the SVD at 12.5 watts.
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Ohm meter is a great base to work on. Thanks for that tip a while back @Matthee
View attachment 1529
Nicely firing. Used @TylerD's advice of the tweezer squeeze to get the coils tight together.
View attachment 1530
Wicked and lubed up. Cotton not too tight before putting juice on. Just a bit of resistance when pulling in either direction.
View attachment 1531
I was trying to get closer to the posts than to the edge of the device - going for more throat hit. I probably could have gotten closer to the posts though. But the throat hit is great.
I welcome any comments and suggestions.
What do you think I should do for my next build?
- Lower resistance - say down to 1.3 - but on the SVD, will that make much of a difference at the same power setting? If I were to go lower resistance do you suggest a smaller ID or the same ID with fewer wraps?
- Try go closer to the posts for more throat hit?
@Tom, I know you once said try go as close to the edge as possible. To get the coil as close to the airhole as possible. But my understanding is that improves the flavour. This thing has great flavour anyway so I am willing to sacrifice a bit of flavour for more throat hit. I am keen to try that though in any event to see if I can perceive the difference.
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Thanks @SunRam, that's a good point, didn't think of that.
I do tend to press the fire button for about a half second before taking the first drag. So you are right, it takes a bit of time to heat up.
What I find is that my second drag is usually the more pleasing "knock me out throat hit" one. I suppose the coil is already quite hot after the first drag so the second one heats it up much quicker.
1.4 ohms here we come...
I do tend to press the fire button for about a half second before taking the first drag. So you are right, it takes a bit of time to heat up.
What I find is that my second drag is usually the more pleasing "knock me out throat hit" one. I suppose the coil is already quite hot after the first drag so the second one heats it up much quicker.
1.4 ohms here we come...
That's exactly right, the second hit is always warmer. But we're really nitpicking here, nothing wrong with that coil.
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That is a superb first coil, most excellently done, @Silver. And the best of memory remembering all those tips and stuff. From here on it will be a breeze. Enjoy.
Now, next stop, Reoville!
LOL, Reoville is a place I would like to graduate to, not just stop at
I think I need a few more coils under my belt then I will feel better. Also I want to short my coil out on the deck to fully appreciate the ceramic deck of the REO
I think I need a few more coils under my belt then I will feel better. Also I want to short my coil out on the deck to fully appreciate the ceramic deck of the REO
My first unsupervised coil
The first one I did I had a master coiler (@TylerD) supervising me at our vape meet. This coil I did all by myself
It came out well and the vape is really good. I am very pleased.
It's on an IGO-L.
Kanthal 28g wire
ID: not sure but approx 2mm. I made use of @TylerD's trick of using a small screwdriver. Makes it easier to wind the coil while holding it and also helps to get it into position in the device.
10 wraps
Came out at 1.7 ohms. Slightly higher than the 1.6 ohm coil I built under supervision with @TylerD.
Wicked with cotton.
For this, I tried to position the coil quite close to the posts and fairly high up. I was trying to get more throat hit. Thanks @Matthee for the pointers. It worked. The throat hit is very good. After building it, I discovered it was a bit too high and not aligned with the air hole, so I gently moved the coil a bit down.
Juice is none other than 5Pawns Bowdens Mate. Heaven for me on this dripper. Using the SVD at 12.5 watts.
View attachment 1528
Ohm meter is a great base to work on. Thanks for that tip a while back @Matthee
View attachment 1529
Nicely firing. Used @TylerD's advice of the tweezer squeeze to get the coils tight together.
View attachment 1530
Wicked and lubed up. Cotton not too tight before putting juice on. Just a bit of resistance when pulling in either direction.
View attachment 1531
I was trying to get closer to the posts than to the edge of the device - going for more throat hit. I probably could have gotten closer to the posts though. But the throat hit is great.
I welcome any comments and suggestions.
What do you think I should do for my next build?
- Lower resistance - say down to 1.3 - but on the SVD, will that make much of a difference at the same power setting? If I were to go lower resistance do you suggest a smaller ID or the same ID with fewer wraps?
- Try go closer to the posts for more throat hit?
@Tom, I know you once said try go as close to the edge as possible. To get the coil as close to the airhole as possible. But my understanding is that improves the flavour. This thing has great flavour anyway so I am willing to sacrifice a bit of flavour for more throat hit. I am keen to try that though in any event to see if I can perceive the difference.
Nice going @Silver1 you are a pro already. Took me a bit of tweaking to find my happy place but its loads of fun, wire and cotton are cheap so keep building and trying new things.
Yup . Well done there . Nice first coil ..
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