Getting back into dripping, some advice needed

[JB1987]

Good point @Silver , I tend to prefer simpler builds as well as I'm not a fan of an intensely hot vape.

 

[Silver]

Good point @Silver , I tend to prefer simpler builds as well as I'm not a fan of an intensely hot vape.

I think I know where I'm headed @JB1987 and my chats i have had with several vapers have often pointed me to the Petri.

However I know that many love the Goon too.

Maybe i need to just get both:

Petri with my own coils and 12mg juice
Versus
Goon with an exotic bought coil from, say @Yusuf Cape Vaper or @RiaanRed and 6mg juice


Let me know your thoughts on this and lets compare notes as we go

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Lovely writeup here @Clouds4Days !
Thanks - you have a knack for this sort of thing

I am also in a similar position to @JB1987

Also want to get a great dripper -

I am less likely to do crazy builds - so am leaning toward the Petri V2

My first question @Clouds4Days , how would you say the Goon compares to the Petri V2 RDA? Using say a more "normal" build and focusing more on flavour?

My other concern is whether to pair it with a tube mech mod (for the sex appeal and matchy matchy) or to use it on say my RX200 and not get the mech mod.

Am keen to hear your views on this

I know I was not asked, but I have vaped a few Petri V2's with friends and if you dont want the extra cloud cap making it ridiculously expensive, and flavour and simplicity take priority... the Goon falls very far short IMO.
One point to the Goon again is it can be easily modified for bottom feed. Another point to the Goon is a massive experienced user base.
I do like running small builds in the Goon and feel it actually shines with a normal 24g build than big claptons.

Overall best buy is the Petri sans cloud cap. Only if clouds are an issue does the Goon re enter the competition. IMO at least.

 

[Silver]

I know I was not asked, but I have vaped a few Petri V2's with friends and if you dont want the extra cloud cap making it ridiculously expensive, and flavour and simplicity take priority... the Goon falls very far short IMO.
One point to the Goon again is it can be easily modified for bottom feed. Another point to the Goon is a massive experienced user base.
I do like running small builds in the Goon and feel it actually shines with a normal 24g build than big claptons.

Overall best buy is the Petri sans cloud cap. Only if clouds are an issue does the Goon re enter the competition. IMO at least.

Thanks @The Luggage
And welcome to the forum!

Appreciate the insight there and the positioning between the two.

If I got the Petri, I would most likely get it without the cloud cap.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Thanks @The Luggage
And welcome to the forum!

Appreciate the insight there and the positioning between the two.

If I got the Petri, I would most likely get it without the cloud cap.

You are most welcome. One angle to consider the Goon from and perhaps checking out is forgetting about exotic builds. Most people think of the Goon exclusively in terms of what can fit into it. With a small build you have one massive juice well and can probably do drips of 20 toots at 50w depending on your wicking style. Then using the standard drip tip and air flow choked down it is hard to beat for tobacco and 'reserve' style juices. I still believe the Petri can outperform it flavor wise with the right build, but I will hand the Goon the fact that it is very tolerant of build style. So there are two factors I left out, the big juice well IS a massive plus, and small builds plus tobaccos in the Goon = WIN.

 

[Silver]

You are most welcome. One angle to consider the Goon from and perhaps checking out is forgetting about exotic builds. Most people think of the Goon exclusively in terms of what can fit into it. With a small build you have one massive juice well and can probably do drips of 20 toots at 50w depending on your wicking style. Then using the standard drip tip and air flow choked down it is hard to beat for tobacco and 'reserve' style juices. I still believe the Petri can outperform it flavor wise with the right build, but I will hand the Goon the fact that it is very tolerant of build style. So there are two factors I left out, the big juice well IS a massive plus, and small builds plus tobaccos in the Goon = WIN.

Thanks - extra insights

Very interesting point about the tobaccoes and reserve flavours. Good to know because I like my tobaccoes a lot. Generally not in lung hit format (rather strong juice MTL) but have been warming recently to lung hit tobacco on the Avo24.

Perhaps the topic of a different thread but I agree that some devices suit certain flavours more than others. So many variables. Its mind boggling - but fascinating.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Thanks - extra insights

Very interesting point about the tobaccoes and reserve flavours. Good to know because I like my tobaccoes a lot. Generally not in lung hit format (rather strong juice MTL) but have been warming recently to lung hit tobacco on the Avo24.

Perhaps the topic of a different thread but I agree that some devices suit certain flavours more than others. So many variables. Its mind boggling - but fascinating.

Indeed most fascinating and I agree that my comments and preferences with devices is massively influenced by my preference in liquids. All the best with your decision, and a happy new year filled with flavour to you and yours!

PS: My two favorite constricted lung hit drippers are the Recoil, which I run at all of 35 to 40 watts, and the Phenotype LS which I do not own but was quite impressed with. A friend owns one and if I have some spare change it will be the most tempting item on my list...

 

[Silver]

Thanks @The Luggage
And happy new year to you and yours too!

 

[KB_314]

Happy New Year vaping friends!

@Silver - apologies if this is another spanner - I don't own a Goon, but I have a TM2 and Petri V2 (both authentic), 22mm. Use them daily.

For the money, the TM2 is the winner imo. On single airflow, dual coil setting, the flavour matches the Petri at very least. Sometimes I think it may even have the edge on the Petri. I'm not particularly into clouds but nice to know it's there for those times (without having to spend more on extra parts). And it's easier to build on. Comes with a cool tool. Has adjustable airflow (with a single coil setting as well)

And yet I use the Petri more and if I lost one, I'd be more upset losing the Petri. I favour it, but not because of either flavour or clouds - if I'm honest, it's because I find it quite "luxurious" in that it's extremely quiet even with a lively build - like speeding in an S class Mercedes Also, it has 2 posts and nothing in the centre of the deck, which I prefer because I'm a clumsy dripper and you can line the (ceramic) bottom with extra cotton and drip straight into the centre of the deck through the DT without even looking down. More convenient to remove the cap if you need because it doesn't screw in like the TM2 (they just use orings to keep it in place). And of course, it's very, very pretty.

Edit : both have outstanding build quality. TM2 has buttery threads, Petri has good orings and snug friction fits

So yeah, my 2c, go for the Goon 24

 

[Keyaam]

To make the choice even more difficult, there is a goon 22.


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[Gazzacpt]

To make the choice even more difficult, there is a goon 22.


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Goon 22mm and TM2 22mm are my favorite drippers at the moment.
Smaller chambers more flavour, while having space for decent builds, great airflow options and single coil capable.
The TM2 can be a fantastic cloud machine if you build for it too.
I might finally retire my TOBH that has been my flavour benchmark for everything until the Goon 22 arrived and pipped it out of top spot. The Goon is not that great to build on but its easy enough to throw coils into.

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[Clouds4Days]

Lovely writeup here @Clouds4Days !
Thanks - you have a knack for this sort of thing

I am also in a similar position to @JB1987

Also want to get a great dripper -

I am less likely to do crazy builds - so am leaning toward the Petri V2

My first question @Clouds4Days , how would you say the Goon compares to the Petri V2 RDA? Using say a more "normal" build and focusing more on flavour?

My other concern is whether to pair it with a tube mech mod (for the sex appeal and matchy matchy) or to use it on say my RX200 and not get the mech mod.

Am keen to hear your views on this

Thanks @Silver i try my best to help where i can
Based on your style of vaping @Silver i would definatly look at the Petri V2 over the goon, purely because i feel the Petri its more restricted out the box.

You can throw on the Petri a cloud cap and chuff cap and improve airflow but you will not need to cause its set up already just the way you like it.

As for which mod/mech to run it on.
You dont need a mech but it will really look pretty on a matching mech.

One thing i have heard though of the petri mech is that it does not feel that solid in the hand (because of being constructed from aluminium).

For me that is the downfall of the Petri mech, it should of been made from brass or copper especialy considering the price tag.

Im sorry, i think im making your decision more difficult

But you could always get a trinity glass cap which makes the Petri RDA look like a 24mm and it looks amazing on any 24mm brass mod.

So you could always just get a petri v2 rda first and decide what you wanna do after.

Here is a pick of my first tube mech setup.
Petri v2 RDA with trinity glass cap on a shemus mech mod.

 

[Silver]

Happy New Year vaping friends!

@Silver - apologies if this is another spanner - I don't own a Goon, but I have a TM2 and Petri V2 (both authentic), 22mm. Use them daily.

For the money, the TM2 is the winner imo. On single airflow, dual coil setting, the flavour matches the Petri at very least. Sometimes I think it may even have the edge on the Petri. I'm not particularly into clouds but nice to know it's there for those times (without having to spend more on extra parts). And it's easier to build on. Comes with a cool tool. Has adjustable airflow (with a single coil setting as well)

And yet I use the Petri more and if I lost one, I'd be more upset losing the Petri. I favour it, but not because of either flavour or clouds - if I'm honest, it's because I find it quite "luxurious" in that it's extremely quiet even with a lively build - like speeding in an S class Mercedes Also, it has 2 posts and nothing in the centre of the deck, which I prefer because I'm a clumsy dripper and you can line the (ceramic) bottom with extra cotton and drip straight into the centre of the deck through the DT without even looking down. More convenient to remove the cap if you need because it doesn't screw in like the TM2 (they just use orings to keep it in place). And of course, it's very, very pretty.

Edit : both have outstanding build quality. TM2 has buttery threads, Petri has good orings and snug friction fits

So yeah, my 2c, go for the Goon 24

Lol, thanks @KB_314 !
Much appreciated. Your comments have helped a lot

 

[Silver]

Thanks for your comments @Keyaam and @Gazzacpt
Goon 22 is certainly making things a lot more complicated.

 

[Silver]

Thanks @Silver i try my best to help where i can
Based on your style of vaping @Silver i would definatly look at the Petri V2 over the goon, purely because i feel the Petri its more restricted out the box.

You can throw on the Petri a cloud cap and chuff cap and improve airflow but you will not need to cause its set up already just the way you like it.

As for which mod/mech to run it on.
You dont need a mech but it will really look pretty on a matching mech.

One thing i have heard though of the petri mech is that it does not feel that solid in the hand (because of being constructed from aluminium).

For me that is the downfall of the Petri mech, it should of been made from brass or copper especialy considering the price tag.

Im sorry, i think im making your decision more difficult

But you could always get a trinity glass cap which makes the Petri RDA look like a 24mm and it looks amazing on any 24mm brass mod.

So you could always just get a petri v2 rda first and decide what you wanna do after.

Here is a pick of my first tube mech setup.
Petri v2 RDA with trinity glass cap on a shemus mech mod.

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Thanks @Clouds4Days - I appreciate it. I will probably first go for the dripper and run it on my regulateds to see how I go and how much I use it before getting a tube mech. I find myself getting caught up in the whole tube mech is cool thing of late but I forget my original gripes with tubes I had back in the day - i didnt like the bottom button fire mechanism and that they often fall over when you put them down

 

[Polar]

My HAdlay is being used as a dripper until my Hellfire Shadow arrives!

Also hoping to get a decent dripper in a squonker configuration. Wondering about spitback on these setups. My preferences are very close to yours regarding coil build IE. round 0.6 Ohm un-spaced NI80 or SS 24G and low wattage with flavour being my primary concern. Does the Halady RDA spit in either drip or squonk (if you've tried) configs. Is there much flavour improvements over RTA's like the Serpent mini?

 

[Rob Fisher]

Also hoping to get a decent dripper in a squonker configuration. Wondering about spitback on these setups. My preferences are very close to yours regarding coil build IE. round 0.6 Ohm un-spaced NI80 or SS 24G and low wattage with flavour being my primary concern. Does the Halady RDA spit in either drip or squonk (if you've tried) configs. Is there much flavour improvements over RTA's like the Serpent mini?

@Polar I have tried it in squonking mode yet but I doubt there will be much of a difference in RDA and Squonking modes... with my (and your) standard builds there is no spitting...

I must say I get good flavour both from the SM25 and the Hadaly... but I don't drip often so haven't really given it a fair shake... I always over drip and that' why I enjoy squonking because the juice wets the wick and then drains away and that tends to give me a far more consistent and better flavour vape. Will tell you this week how the Hadaly handles squonking...

 

[Lord Vetinari]

Happy New Year vaping friends!

@Silver - apologies if this is another spanner - I don't own a Goon, but I have a TM2 and Petri V2 (both authentic), 22mm. Use them daily.

For the money, the TM2 is the winner imo. On single airflow, dual coil setting, the flavour matches the Petri at very least. Sometimes I think it may even have the edge on the Petri. I'm not particularly into clouds but nice to know it's there for those times (without having to spend more on extra parts). And it's easier to build on. Comes with a cool tool. Has adjustable airflow (with a single coil setting as well)

And yet I use the Petri more and if I lost one, I'd be more upset losing the Petri. I favour it, but not because of either flavour or clouds - if I'm honest, it's because I find it quite "luxurious" in that it's extremely quiet even with a lively build - like speeding in an S class Mercedes Also, it has 2 posts and nothing in the centre of the deck, which I prefer because I'm a clumsy dripper and you can line the (ceramic) bottom with extra cotton and drip straight into the centre of the deck through the DT without even looking down. More convenient to remove the cap if you need because it doesn't screw in like the TM2 (they just use orings to keep it in place). And of course, it's very, very pretty.

Edit : both have outstanding build quality. TM2 has buttery threads, Petri has good orings and snug friction fits

So yeah, my 2c, go for the Goon 24

THIS. A 2 post Twisted Messes is my dream atty. I ran a TM2 barrel on a Phenotype L base for a week. Not a perfect fit but good enough for me to be CRAVING a Twisted Messes with a two post deck.

 

[Polar]

Thanks Rob, once you're convinced come convince me too

 

[JB1987]

I think I know where I'm headed @JB1987 and my chats i have had with several vapers have often pointed me to the Petri.

However I know that many love the Goon too.

Maybe i need to just get both:

Petri with my own coils and 12mg juice
Versus
Goon with an exotic bought coil from, say @Yusuf Cape Vaper or @RiaanRed and 6mg juice


Let me know your thoughts on this and lets compare notes as we go

It would be great to compare, however, the Petri is a bit out of my price range. I'm starting to lean towards my original interest, the TM2, based on the additional feedback received from @Gazzacpt , @KB_314 and @The Luggage . The Goon 22 seems very attractive as well, currently I have narrowed down my choice between the TM2 and the Goon 22.

P.S. Happy New Year

 

[KB_314]

It would be great to compare, however, the Petri is a bit out of my price range. I'm starting to lean towards my original interest, the TM2, based on the additional feedback received from @Gazzacpt , @KB_314 and @The Luggage . The Goon 22 seems very attractive as well, currently I have narrowed down my choice between the TM2 and the Goon 22.

P.S. Happy New Year

Let us know what you think when you pull the trigger on one of them.
Truth is, you can't really go that far wrong with any of the atties discussed in this thread.
TM2, Petri, Goon & Hadaly - stellar reviews and feedback from all of them, locally and overseas. If it's an all-rounder you are after rather than a "specialist", then the Goon & TM2 sound like good choices

 

[JB1987]

Let us know what you think when you pull the trigger on one of them.
Truth is, you can't really go that far wrong with any of the atties discussed in this thread.
TM2, Petri, Goon & Hadaly - stellar reviews and feedback from all of them, locally and overseas. If it's an all-rounder you are after rather than a "specialist", then the Goon & TM2 sound like good choices

Thanks @KB_314 , I think I've made a decision and will pull the trigger as soon as I'm back from KZN on the 4th, thanks for the assistance

 

[LFC]

Having tried a number of builds and different wire types in my Goon 24, I've found a dual 24ga Ni80 parallel build with 2 airflow holes gives the best flavour, dense clouds and the least spitback.

Together with the Chubby summit wide bore it chucks serious clouds as it is wide open with no airflow control.

I'm planning on getting a CSMNT soon, maybe look into that as another option

 

[Andre]

Also hoping to get a decent dripper in a squonker configuration. Wondering about spitback on these setups. My preferences are very close to yours regarding coil build IE. round 0.6 Ohm un-spaced NI80 or SS 24G and low wattage with flavour being my primary concern. Does the Halady RDA spit in either drip or squonk (if you've tried) configs. Is there much flavour improvements over RTA's like the Serpent mini?

My mind is now set on a Hadaly, but no stock anywhere!
Here is a video review of the Hadaly on a squonker. Seems to perform great @Polar.

 

[JB1987]

@Andre I was also considering the Hadaly but couldn't find stock anywhere, not sure how soon anyone will have stock again. The reviews I've seen have been brilliant though.