What I have learned about DIY e-liquid making, so far

At the risk of stealing someone else's catchphrase, (@craigb - sorry...)

The reason that the EM crystals were not dissolving in the 100ml batch like they did in the 50ml batch, was that I WASN'T SUPPOSED TO USE THE CRYSTALS! I SHOULD have used the made-up concentrate (1/4 teaspoon EM crystals in a 10ml bottle topped up with PG) like you're supposed to!

Wait a minute, you`re not supposed to mix the crystals directly into the mix?

I measured out the correct grams of EM according to the recipe and just dumped it straight into the bottle with the mix and let it sit. I noticed that the crystals accumulated on the bottom and after two days of mild shaking here and there they were still there. I then dumped the bottle into a cup of warm water for about 20 minutes and they dissolved into the mix.

Funnily enough that juice I made came out very nicely.
 
I measured out the correct grams of EM according to the recipe and just dumped it straight into the bottle with the mix and let it sit.

So 10% of what the recipe stated, i.e. if the recipe said 0.8g of EM, you put in 0.08g of crystals?
 
Wait a minute, you`re not supposed to mix the crystals directly into the mix?

I measured out the correct grams of EM according to the recipe and just dumped it straight into the bottle with the mix and let it sit. I noticed that the crystals accumulated on the bottom and after two days of mild shaking here and there they were still there. I then dumped the bottle into a cup of warm water for about 20 minutes and they dissolved into the mix.

Funnily enough that juice I made came out very nicely.

I'm hoping that this is what happens in my case. If my math is correct, I have 10 times as much EM in the juice as I'm supposed to have. (I used half a gram of PURE EM instead of half a gram of a 10% solution)
 
I'm hoping that this is what happens in my case. If my math is correct, I have 10 times as much EM in the juice as I'm supposed to have. (I used half a gram of PURE EM instead of half a gram of a 10% solution)

Apparently I also overdosed on the EM in my mix. Thankfully I have made only one recipe using EM, so there is hope for my future mixes.
Assuming this delicious Boston Cream Pie with 10x more EM than it should have doesn`t kill me first :)
 
If a factor 10 "overdose" of EM has no worse consequence than muted flavours, then I count myself one lucky SOB.

Thanks, @RichJB !
 
Well, I can't talk about what vaping undissolved EM crystals may do to your coils, or to your lungs should you inhale some. Although I think it would be too heavy to be carried in vapour and would probably settle as a black crust on your coils, or deposits in the bottom of your atty.
 
Not if you have a sweet tooth. :D Adding 10x the amount of EM required may also tend to mute the flavours a bit.
Surprisingly it is not so sweet at all, it is there but it works well with the cinnamon bun (which is also quite a strong flavour imo). There is a fair amount of gentle popping sometimes which adds some sweet drops on the lips.
 
Regarding DIY, I am in a bit of a weird twilight zone at the moment. I have made about 45 different juice recipes. I find that initIally, I love the juice and then a few days later I get sick of the flavor. This happens to all my juice. I only have about 3 juices that are really my favorite, but even these become boring.

So, I have mixed up some flavorless 80/20 VG/PG, 3mg and 6mg juice. When I get tired of a juice, I just vape the flavorless juice on a dripper until the original juice is completely muted.

It's almost like I have to reset my taste buds as all the juice taste boring or overbearing.

I have read that some people vape flavorless juice for a season. Has anyone experienced a similar thing?


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I tire of juices quickly. So I keep 20+ juices on my desk and just rotate. I rarely take more than ten puffs of a juice without switching to another. I have found that this not only averts vaper's tongue (your palate is constantly being hit from another angle and doesn't fall into a single-profile 'rut') but also extends the time I can vape on a juice before tiring of it.

I also feel like different juices at different times of the day. Coffee is really only a 'first thing in the morning' juice which I vape for half-an-hour and then switch. The constant changing also clears the palate of after-taste. I'm vaping a pineapple menthol atm which, as nice as it is, leaves a very strong taste on the palate. Even when I'm not vaping, I'm getting that strong tart pineapple taste. A couple of toots of a heavy sweet bakery, for eg, cuts that acidity and brings my mouth/palate back to the sort of neutral position I prefer.

Regarding strength of flavour, I feel that most juices (commercial and DIY) are over-flavoured. Whoever is making the juice, the goal is the same: to wow the first-time vaper with the first puff. We all want people to be blown away the moment they taste our juice or recipe. That is well and good but if it's a sickly sweet, very rich juice, it will pall quickly. I believe that as my DIY skills grow, I will gravitate towards juices that are under-flavoured, where the first-time vaper will just go "Huh?" when vaping it. But I think the juice will have greater longevity. You can eat plain bread all day long. Rich sweet desserts, fancy fizzy fruity drinks, meats with exotic creamy sauces... not so much.
 
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Amen to that @RichJB - when 1'st started vaping, over flavoring was no problem due to stuffed taste buds. 6 Months down the line I had to dilute all my store bought juices with PG and VG - still practicing diluting same to this day.
 
I hope my battered palate from all my overbearing TFA DIY juices recovers. I think I erred by using high percentages of TFA flavour after reading that TFA is generally weak. I have really developed a problem guys. Most juice is making me feel quite ill. In future I will stick to exact recipes.

Tonight I mixed some 100 ml batches of 80/20 VG/PG, 3mg and 6mg Nic, with a very mild peppermint and some "Smooth" TFA. I am lying in bed catching up on some unread posts here, vaping almost flavourless juice with a tiny hint of peppermint, and for the first time in days, I am actually enjoying vaping again.

I hope my palate re sets soon.


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Hope your palate recovers @Waine
Great idea you have to vape a mild peppermint juice. Sounds nice
 
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