Thanks for the feedback. I am going to have to order some of of that Malva Pudding, might as well stock up on PG and VG while I'm at it. Those prices are insane cheap. And here I thought I was done buying things for the month sigh
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Thanks for the feedback. I am going to have to order some of of that Malva Pudding, might as well stock up on PG and VG while I'm at it. Those prices are insane cheap. And here I thought I was done buying things for the month sigh
OK, 3% Malva 2% FA Custard is done in a 60:40 at 3mg. Into the steeping cupboard for two weeks. My initial smell test (no vaping yet) is that the Custard may need to be toned down or the Malva increased. But I'll see how it steeps first.
Incidentally, why is Tiramisu always so strong? TFA's is recommended at 0.25%(!) and the FA one seems very strong too. My vape flavouring cupboard usually has a mix of aromas. Now it's just Tiramisu overpowering everything.
Incidentally, why is Tiramisu always so strong? TFA's is recommended at 0.25%(!) and the FA one seems very strong too. My vape flavouring cupboard usually has a mix of aromas. Now it's just Tiramisu overpowering everything.
OK I sent a request through to Geoff from Clyrolinx about his concentrates and what they are mixed with.
Here is his answer
"Over the months in which I’ve been supplying flavours, my supplier has changed their processes marginally which has affected the flavour composition to a slight degree.
The original formulation was with a minimal amount of propylene glycol. This has since been increased for stability and cost purposes, but again to a very small degree.
The flavour extract has to have a carrier. With most flavours, that carrier is propylene glycol. With more oily flavour extracts, ethyl di glycol is used. Water is added to this to give substance to the extract with the carrier.
The exact percentage of PG or EDG to water varies from flavour to flavour.
All of the flavours are water soluble, but with the minimal change that the lab has made to the amount of PG or EDG that is used, we are considering whether to continue to indicate that these are water-based flavours or if we should now consider them to be PG/EDG-based flavours. I will get back to you on this soon. In the meantime, given that PG is an ingredient which can cause the harshness in the throat (the throat hit), it would be practical to assume them to be of PG base and reduce the pure PG volume in a mix in order not to increase the PG level unnecessarily."
Hope that answers some questions. Looks like for one you don't have to select 0 PG/VG anymore.
Here is his answer
"Over the months in which I’ve been supplying flavours, my supplier has changed their processes marginally which has affected the flavour composition to a slight degree.
The original formulation was with a minimal amount of propylene glycol. This has since been increased for stability and cost purposes, but again to a very small degree.
The flavour extract has to have a carrier. With most flavours, that carrier is propylene glycol. With more oily flavour extracts, ethyl di glycol is used. Water is added to this to give substance to the extract with the carrier.
The exact percentage of PG or EDG to water varies from flavour to flavour.
All of the flavours are water soluble, but with the minimal change that the lab has made to the amount of PG or EDG that is used, we are considering whether to continue to indicate that these are water-based flavours or if we should now consider them to be PG/EDG-based flavours. I will get back to you on this soon. In the meantime, given that PG is an ingredient which can cause the harshness in the throat (the throat hit), it would be practical to assume them to be of PG base and reduce the pure PG volume in a mix in order not to increase the PG level unnecessarily."
Hope that answers some questions. Looks like for one you don't have to select 0 PG/VG anymore.
Beware the vetkoek and slap tjips flavour with the oily ethyl di glycol! I'd actually also like to know which flavours it's used in. A quick glance through their flavour listing doesn't reveal anything that's obviously oily. Liquorice or malva pudding maybe?
A quick google search revealed the following:
Well, we're already vaping anti-freeze, may as well add brake fluid to the mix. All we need is to add gearbox oil and I'm sure @OnePowerfulCorsa will be loving this juice.
A quick google search revealed the following:
Well, we're already vaping anti-freeze, may as well add brake fluid to the mix. All we need is to add gearbox oil and I'm sure @OnePowerfulCorsa will be loving this juice.
Beware the vetkoek and slap tjips flavour with the oily ethyl di glycol! I'd actually also like to know which flavours it's used in. A quick glance through their flavour listing doesn't reveal anything that's obviously oily. Liquorice or malva pudding maybe?
A quick google search revealed the following:
Well, we're already vaping anti-freeze, may as well add brake fluid to the mix. All we need is to add gearbox oil and I'm sure @OnePowerfulCorsa will be loving this juice.
Huh? Now what did I do?
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We're making a juice for you with anti-freeze and brake fluid in. You will not need to change your plugs and points as often.
I made the Malva pudding as 0% pg/vg and it came out beautifully...shake and vape at 4%. As said before, I made another with 4% Malva, 3% vanilla swirl and .3 apricot - absolutely stunning and my ADV for the last week or so.
Beware of the Jagermeister and Amarula... I did a batch each at 5% then toned it down to 4 and now 3! Both very strong... The Jagermeister contains alcohol for that special little kick...
and the taste lingers in your coil for quite bit... I "flush" me coil with a straight strawberry, it's the only thing that (I find) does the trick with strong flavours...
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Beware of the Jagermeister and Amarula... I did a batch each at 5% then toned it down to 4 and now 3! Both very strong... The Jagermeister contains alcohol for that special little kick...
and the taste lingers in your coil for quite bit... I "flush" me coil with a straight strawberry, it's the only thing that (I find) does the trick with strong flavours...Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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I'm still steeping my Malva and FA Custard. I'm going to do a Cly Cherry with FA Cola next. Then Cly Milk Tart with FA Forest Mix (berries).
Btw, the caramel popcorn is kick-ass at 5%...again, shake and vape suited...
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I'm wondering why the Jagermeister contains alcohol but their other alcohol flavours don't? I will be ordering more flavours from them, only got Malva, Milk Tart and Cherry with my first batch. I guess an obvious one to try would be a Jaggie Bomb: Jagermeister and Red Energy.
I'm also intrigued to try the Buchu, I have no idea what that tastes like. Also, is Cerelac the baby porridge stuff? I'm trying to figure out what that would be like as a vape. I reckon a Buchu & Cerelac vape would cause a major "Huh?" moment among international vapers on on E-liquid recipes dot com.
I'm also intrigued to try the Buchu, I have no idea what that tastes like. Also, is Cerelac the baby porridge stuff? I'm trying to figure out what that would be like as a vape. I reckon a Buchu & Cerelac vape would cause a major "Huh?" moment among international vapers on on E-liquid recipes dot com.
Jagerbomb
I have both, will give a go and report back!
I sampled the Buchu but didn't take any - very herby... I'm sure your combo might work...
If you are in the Joburg area, I recommend that you go to visit Geoff, you can sample/smell all the flavours and get some nice insights from him. It's just around the corner from Eastgate. The only problem is that you end buying a bunch of stuff as it is difficult to refuse some of the delectable goodies on offer... I walked away with 22 bottles...
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I'm on the West Rand so it's quite a hike for me. But I'm sometimes East on business so I'll schedule a visit next time I'm in that area. I'm particularly interested in the Condensed Milk, have you tried it? I was so disappointed when HIC said that FA's CM was more like ideal or powdered milk. Condensed milk is one of my favourite things and I so want a genuine CM flavour. If FA haven't done it the way I like, I'll be impressed if Cly can.
I didn't get it because of his comments also... I'll be getting that and a couple others with me next order
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I am not a scientist, but ethyl Di Glycol does not sound good for human consumption or inhalation if I understand this correctly. And from what I have read, oils in juices are a no-no for vaping. Just wondering.
Ethyl Di Glycol is a poison, but then so is Nicotine and Arsenic 
. I think it all depends on the quantity you expose yourself to. I’m just going to avoid the flavours that contain it until someone can enlighten us.
Sugar isn't good for you either..so remember, only eat the centre of a ring donut because that part is sugar free
. I think it all depends on the quantity you expose yourself to. I’m just going to avoid the flavours that contain it until someone can enlighten us.Sugar isn't good for you either..so remember, only eat the centre of a ring donut because that part is sugar free
It's almost time for this one... Have you tried it yet?
I found that steeping did'nt do much here - mine was good to go - very slight changes after a week - not notable. The custard does need some time though...
I made another batch BTW = 4% Malva, 2% Cap Vanilla swirl, 2% Cap Vanilla Custard and 0.3% Cly Apricot - its a winner!!! I think the Malva & Vanilla swirl with a touch of apricot is still the best out of the 3 I made though...
I found that the custard toned the Malva down a bit it - it detracts form the Malva IMO. I think this one is best as a stand alone...
My Malva and FA Custard is still steeping. It's been in the cupboard for 9 days, another 5 days or so then I'll be ready. I suspect it's going to be more custard and less malva taste, if aroma is anything to go by. I could try it now but I still have a bunch of juices on my desk and all my attys are full of other stuff. I'm mixing up some Cly Milk Tart and FA Forest Mix today. I don't know if that will work but I'm thinking that the milk tart might be quite bland and may need something to tart it up.
So I ordered about 14 concentrates from pirates crog. Should recieve by Friday and will mix over the weekend and start making notes on our little project
Received my order a bit earlier than expected. Awesome service plus a extra surprise. So will start abit earlier with the notes
If you referring to the ratio in my Malva recipe, i only add 0.3% - 0.5% as it is a bit potent... It is not necessary but it adds that little "zing" which makes this recipe extra special.
The apricot itself is strong and must be used in small quantities - is has a fantastic authentic apricot flavour.
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