Hadaly RDA - Building

[Silver]

It’s a 3mm ID coil @Silver. The mix is 3 and 6 but it’s not only the nic and throat hit that gets ya... it’s the teeth chattering chill too. The new batch I’m busy with is significantly stronger though. 30ml 6mg xxx and 60 ml 6mg brain freeze with 10ml 18mg nic bumper. Still busy gathering the ingredients but it’s in the works. Gonna have frost bite on my mustache when I’m done


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Thanks @Amir

Your new batch of juice sounds great!!
As we discussed, try get some 36mg PG nic, the PG also helps a bit with the sharpness and throat hit
And if you want nice menthol, get some menthol concentrate from Vapour Mountain. I love that !
I am never without my nic and menthol to add to juices...

 

[Amir]

Thanks @Amir

Your new batch of juice sounds great!!
As we discussed, try get some 36mg PG nic, the PG also helps a bit with the sharpness and throat hit
And if you want nice menthol, get some menthol concentrate from Vapour Mountain. I love that !
I am never without my nic and menthol to add to juices...

So painfully delicious



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[Silver]

That is awesome @Amir !!
The 36mg suits the Reo Mini very well!
Compensation by more power in the juice !!!

 

[Amir]

That is awesome @Amir !!
The 36mg suits the Reo Mini very well!
Compensation by more power in the juice !!!

Exactly the reason why I know I can live with it... Just need to find the optimal build for it... Going to try a between the posts single coil because the one sided single coil leaves too much room for air so it makes for a very dry vape which is fine but because its high PG it will dry my mouth out and that's pretty unpleasant

 

[Scissorhands]

Exactly the reason why I know I can live with it... Just need to find the optimal build for it... Going to try a between the posts single coil because the one sided single coil leaves too much room for air so it makes for a very dry vape which is fine but because its high PG it will dry my mouth out and that's pretty unpleasant

I know its not ideal but you could use cotton to "plug" the empty side, I got better results that way vs a center/ Z coil

Best regards

 

[Silver]

@Amir this is for you

Reo Mini about to get a high octane pitstop

 

[Amir]

I know its not ideal but you could use cotton to "plug" the empty side, I got better results that way vs a center/ Z coil

Best regards

A huge factor in my perception of the vape quality also takes into consideration the neatness of the coil and layout in the chamber. Not a fan of cotton plugs, overlapping wraps, skew coils etc. I like nice clean tidy workspace


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[Amir]

@Amir this is for you

Reo Mini about to get a high octane pitstop

Need to get myself an RM2 to play around with


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[Silver]

Found a great alternative to the stock tip on the Hadaly

It's that extremely comfortable drip tip from the Merlin Mini.

Doesn't get so hot. Taller. It's a bit bigger and wider. A lot more comfortable.

Side note - My gosh it's a great tip. Wish I had a few of them!! Used this also on my OL16 for a while and it was great.

 

[Silver]

Right it's time to do some testing with the Hadaly.

Still have the 0.18 ohm 3mm ID Alien that @Amir left in for me when I got the Hadaly.

Now am going to try it with a juice I know by now pretty well. It's LIT SideChick plus a bit more nic plus some menthol.

In we go, all lubed up

Whoa, this Hadaly produces lots of dense flavour. My word. The menthol is a tad too strong. (This juice I use comfortably in my Billet / Exo and Skyline)

But I still feel it's way too hot. Can't take toots more than a second. Even less. It's dense, wet and rich. But it's not ramping fast. And I think it could be crisper.

Don't get me wrong. It's really good but I am going to try out some new coils and see if I can make it a bit cooler so I can take longer draws and try get it crisper.

 

[Ugi]

@Silver try 6 wrap 22g khantal ever so slightly spaced

 

[Silver]

@Silver try 6 wrap 22g khantal ever so slightly spaced

Thanks @Ugi
I am going to try thinner wires first. I prefer a crisper milder vape
But thanks for the headsup

 

[shaun2707]

Thanks @Ugi
I am going to try thinner wires first. I prefer a crisper milder vape
But thanks for the headsup

I can relate @Silver. I visited @KZOR yesterday and he gave me a coil that he built in his video day before. It’s an awesome coil that produces magic flavour but because it ohms out at .17, my Hadaly gets hot as well and I can feel my lips going from rare to well done.

But... I had a toot on @KZOR’s Hadaly with a very similar set up. The difference though is that he has that awesome @hands tip on there as well as a clear cap. The difference is immense. His Hadaly wasn’t even warm.

I can only think that those 2 things make a massive difference.

Looking forward to seeing what build you try next!


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[Silver]

Ok don't laugh

1.4 ohms. 28g Kanthal. 8 wraps. 2.4mm ID. Royal wicks.

One small problem. Trying to lower the coil enough is not easy because the atty sides get in the way of the screwdriver mandrel. Lol. I want the airflow to hit the bottom of the coil.

Can't see if the airflow channels are angled up but I put a piece of wire through them and they look horizontal ?

My first Hadaly build. When I undid the screws the little bases under them came out. Spent some time trying to figure out how they fit back. Lol.

Why 28g you ask? Well it's my first point of reference. I know this wire well. And I know the crispness.

Anyhow , got it in and pushed the coil down a bit with the back of the screwdriver.

And the verdict ?

Wow , it's gorgeous. Better for me than the previous alien!

Am vaping at 12-15 watts. 13 feels about the best.

• It's MUCH cooler and I can take nice long draws. Yeah! I like that. Drip tip doesn't get hot.
• Flavour is a lot crisper. And so pure. My word. Lovely.
• Nowhere near as dense or rich but it's like you took out all the base on a HIFI and maxed the treble. Haha.
• Flavour is a bit 'hollower'. Feels like the chamber is just a tad too big for this coil. I think it needs a slightly beefier coil and a bit more surface area with a bit more power.
• Menthol is less. Don't like that so much. It's there just doesn't blast you like the alien did.

This is a great coil. Would leave it in but I must press on. Have taken photos and recorded all specs in case I need to revert back to this later.

 

[KZOR]

Wow , it's gorgeous.

So you started understanding why i love my hadaly so much?
It is as @shaun2707 said ..... once you have the right coil and accessories this atty is just pure magic.

 

[joshthecarver]

I had a Fralien from the Coil Company in my Hadaly with half a wrap less, came out to 0.2ohms. Great, dense, warm flavour but the battery life sucked. I'd get 4-5ml on a mech squonker before the batteries reached 3.7V. So I switched them out with 22 gauge Haywire Flatwire NI80, 6 and a half wrap spaced, coming in at 0.34 ohms and WOW. Still warm enough, instant ramp up and the flavour is almost as good. No, just different. If you get the chance I'd definitely try it @Silver

 

[Silver]

So you started understanding why i love my hadaly so much?
It is as @shaun2707 said ..... once you have the right coil and accessories this atty is just pure magic.

I can certainly understand @KZOR
This atty does great justice to flavour. I can feel it immediately with this 28g "reference coil"

The flavour is very pure and "clear". Wow.

Just a question @KZOR, are those air channels angled upward slightly or are they horizontal?

 

[Silver]

I had a Fralien from the Coil Company in my Hadaly with half a wrap less, came out to 0.2ohms. Great, dense, warm flavour but the battery life sucked. I'd get 4-5ml on a mech squonker before the batteries reached 3.7V. So I switched them out with 22 gauge Haywire Flatwire NI80, 6 and a half wrap spaced, coming in at 0.34 ohms and WOW. Still warm enough, instant ramp up and the flavour is almost as good. No, just different. If you get the chance I'd definitely try it @Silver View attachment 120383

Thanks for the tip @joshthecarver !
I need to get some of this flatwire and try it but i dont have it at the moment
Will make a note
Thanks again

 

[KZOR]

upward slightly or are they horizontal?

Horizontal but at an angle inwards.

 

[Silver]

Thanks @KZOR
That is helpful

Do you know what i am referring to by not being able to get a 2.5mm coil low enough with the coil around the scredriver because the sides are in the way?

Seems like the airflow must try be about in line with the bottom part of the coil. Now i understand why 3mm is probably the sweet spot ID for this. But at my kind of power and heat I prefer 2.5mm

I will soldier on

 

[Silver]

Ok next up

We're moving thicker
have decided to do 26g NI80

I will report back when its all done

 

[Silver]

PS - yoh, the flavour is good with this little 28g!

So sad to rip it out
Sniff, sniff

 

[Silver]

Horizontal but at an angle inwards.
View attachment 120385

Just confirming @KZOR 's diagram he posted above.

The air slots are indeed angled inwards. That's 28g wire going through the Hadaly and they crisscross in the middle.

 

[Pixstar]

Thanks @KZOR
That is helpful

Do you know what i am referring to by not being able to get a 2.5mm coil low enough with the coil around the scredriver because the sides are in the way?

Seems like the airflow must try be about in line with the bottom part of the coil. Now i understand why 3mm is probably the sweet spot ID for this. But at my kind of power and heat I prefer 2.5mm

I will soldier on

Hi @Silver try using the short end of an ‘L’ shaped allen key to push your coil down further. If you have an allen key that is the same diameter as the ID of the coil, even better.

 

[Adephi]

Ok next up

We're moving thicker
have decided to do 26g NI80

I will report back when its all done

Awaiting your feedback on the 26g. Got my clone on thursday and still trying to get my build right on it.